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    Spend all you have, consume all you want, act as you see fit, the world has officially gawn mad.

    Judge axes trial as victim is 'too honest' to give evidence | Metro.co.uk

    Words fail me.
    A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

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    What would Vedder do?

  • #2
    Originally posted by HeyWayne View Post
    Spend all you have, consume all you want, act as you see fit, the world has officially gawn mad.

    Judge axes trial as victim is 'too honest' to give evidence | Metro.co.uk

    Words fail me.
    speechless for once
    Dont worry about tomorrow, live for today

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    • #3
      "At Tuesday's trial, Judge Tabor said: 'Denise Dawson was a partic*ularly impressive witness because she showed courage, clarity of thought and was undoubtedly honest.'

      But he told Bristol Crown Court it was her word against Perks' and that was not enough to support a conviction."


      Surely that seems fair enough - it may not seem like justice but what else could you do?
      To see a world in a grain of sand
      And a heaven in a wild flower

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      • #4
        You have to consider what would have happened if the person in the dock had been equally honest (just the victim of a genuine mistake), but did not come across well due to poor social skills. It's this that the judge was trying to defend against, even though at first sight it seems mad. I'm surprised this even came to court, I know from a family member who is a barrister that it's almost impossible to bring these her-word-against-his cases anywhere near a courtroom.
        Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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        • #5
          Ok, so let's say the judge had the same two people, only this time the alleged crime was rape.
          A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

          BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

          Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


          What would Vedder do?

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          • #6
            The answer is still the same! Lets say it was you in the dock...your word against theirs?
            To see a world in a grain of sand
            And a heaven in a wild flower

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            • #7
              Originally posted by smallblueplanet View Post
              The answer is still the same! Lets say it was you in the dock...your word against theirs?
              I'd hope our police/legal system could come up with more than simply his/her word against mine. Forensic science being what it is these days (TV dramas aside).
              A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

              BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

              Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


              What would Vedder do?

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              • #8
                Hang on there was someone else there the woman was giving another woman a driving lesson at the time what happened to her evidence, surely that would mean two against one

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HeyWayne View Post
                  Ok, so let's say the judge had the same two people, only this time the alleged crime was rape.
                  The rules are the same, without any real evidence - sadly in this case we'd probably be talking about injuries - there's not much they can do. How many cases have there been where she says rape and he says consent? Virtually every one. And unfortunately there have been, and continue to be, cases where a woman alleges rape, for whatever reason, against a perfectly innocent bloke. The law is set up to allow the guilty go free in preference to convicting the innocent. This sounds all wrong, but suppose you or a member of your family were the accused-but-innocent party? Then you'd be pleased that the law protects you in this way.

                  I have neighbours who, frankly, drive me insane. What would there be to stop me inventing some 'crime' that I said they'd committed in the hopes that they'd be put away for a year or two? I'm educated, my brother is in a position to coach me for the courtroom, whilst their command of English is minimal. I could wipe the floor with them. Fortunately the law protects them. Unfortunately, in doing that it sometimes protects the guilty too.
                  Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HeyWayne View Post
                    Ok, so let's say the judge had the same two people, only this time the alleged crime was rape.
                    The judge may well have asked her what she was wearing!!!
                    cynical? me?
                    WPC F Hobbit, Shire police

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                    • #11
                      Story In The Daily Mirror today!

                      A 40-stone thug has been given a light sentence – because he is so fat.

                      Despite using a wheelchair to get around, Peter Owens, 38, battered two men with a baseball bat after bursting into their home.

                      He could have been jailed for four years but a judge decided he was so unhealthy he gave him 15 months – meaning he could be out in half.

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                      Owens, of Hartlepool, suffers from illnesses including diabetes, angina and a condition which means he could stop breathing in his sleep. Teesside crown court heard Owens, who was convicted of assault and carrying a weapon after a trial last year, needed constant care.

                      His solicitor Paul Cleasby said the yob – who had a string of previous convictions – was afraid that he could die in jail. ( Well what a shame if he did; I say behind grited teeth!! More fool him for being a bad guy in the first place!! )

                      Judge Peter Armstrong told Owens: “I am going to reduce the sentence considerably... because of the health problems you have.”

                      What is the justice system coming to????????? :

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                      • #12
                        Didn't someone once say the law is an ass?
                        A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

                        BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

                        Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


                        What would Vedder do?

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                        • #13
                          Now that, Irie, really is mental.
                          Into each life some rain must fall........but this is getting ridiculous.

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                          • #14
                            The law can be an ass at times and yes things are going mental!!!!

                            I wonder what would happen if these mad decisions were made by the powers that bee all the time I dread to think!!
                            Live like you never lived before!

                            Laugh Like you never laughed before!

                            Love like you never loved before!

                            One Love & Unity


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                            • #15
                              I have respect for the law but find the vagaries of it so frustrating.

                              The CPS decided not to prosecute a case because the victim would be a bad witness as she was so emotive.

                              The police knew the "alleged" had a whole series of convictions but this would not be able to be brought up in court unless he was convicted.

                              I was cautioned not to take things into my own hands as I would undoubtedly be imprisoned and I would be ther first person they would come looking for. And they rightly said, my family needed me in this time.

                              The feeling of utter frustration nearly put me over the top and even now I am starting to feel sick for not knowing what should have been done.

                              I feel a failure and coward.
                              I am certain that the day my boat comes in, I'll be at the airport.

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