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  • zazen999
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    Grapevine meet ups.

    Just a few thoughts to bear in mind.

    If you participate in a thread and say you are going to go to a meet up, please either go, or keep in touch with the organiser and let them know if you can't attend. Please don't say you will be there, and never go back to the thread and never turn up. Venues are chosen to take into consideration those that say they are coming, so if half don't come - a more suitable venue might be required.

    Please try to stay local, if people are travelling from far and wide, spending lots of money on travel and accommodation, and other local people don't turn up, who said they were going to be there, it can be a terrible waste of money and time.

    If you start the ball rolling with a thread to organise a meet up, then you nominate yourself as organiser, and you should be responsible for prompting people, reminding them, finding people travel info and taking contact phone numbers for the day.

    Just a few learning points from a recent meet up, that might help others in future when arranging to meet.
    Last edited by zazen999; 15-04-2013, 08:12 AM.

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  • zazen999
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    Joke Threads

    Hi all

    We had to pull the long running 'Joke' thread for various reasons, mainly because there were more 'jokes' that had to be pulled than were appropriate to be posted on a family forum. And also because it needed constant moderating and we all have other things we'd rather do than read 'jokes' featuring such 'hilarity' as rasicsm, sexism, and all other isms and schisms.

    Please desist from posting joke threads on the Grapevine as all will be pulled.

    Although they start off harmless, they attract non-appropriate 'jokes' and to be honest, we don't find spending our spare time babysitting it all that much fun.

    Kind Regards on behalf of the Moderators.

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  • SarzWix
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    We have noticed some discussion over the last few days about keeping threads on topic within the forum which we would like to address. Previously on the forum, threads were kept ruthlessly on topic and any chat was stifled. As moderators changed, this was relaxed, as we felt that the chatty nature of the forum was more welcoming and friendly for new users and old. However, it seems that perhaps we have got the balance slightly wrong, and whilst we in no way want to change the friendly and chatty atmosphere, we acknowledge that sometimes the advice that people are looking for gets a little lost. This is not the fault of anybody other than the moderators - it is our job to guide the forum in a direction that suits as many members as possible.

    In light of this, whilst we are not going to issue arbitrary rules or stamp out the friendly nature of the forum, if it appears that threads on the main advice boards are going too badly awry, the chatty posts will be moved from these threads into the already established 'Tangentisation' thread. We hope that this will make for some hilarious reading, whilst maintaining accessibility to the friendly and helpful advice given by so many of our members.

    That this issue has gotten to the point of causing dissent between members is entirely our fault, and we would like to apologise to all concerned.

    The Mods

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  • SarzWix
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    Just another reminder that these are some of the Terms and Conditions you agree to by using this forum:

    13. You agree to use growfruitandveg.co.uk communities (including message boards) in accordance with the following Community Rules. These apply across all growfruitandveg.co.uk community sites and services. You should, however, read the local house rules of the particular site or service you're using, as there may be some local variations to these Community Rules.

    (i) About your posts:

    Contributions must be civil and tasteful.

    No disruptive, offensive or abusive behaviour: contributions must be constructive and polite, not mean-spirited or contributed with the intention of causing trouble.

    No unlawful or objectionable content: unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material is not acceptable.

    And:

    3. You agree to use growfruitandveg.co.uk only for lawful purposes, and in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else's use and enjoyment of growfruitandveg.co.uk. Prohibited behaviour includes harassing or causing distress or inconvenience to any person, transmitting obscene or offensive content or disrupting the normal flow of dialogue within growfruitandveg.co.uk.

    And finally:

    ...continuing to break the rules may result in action being taken against your account or accounts.

    This action may include any content posted by you being checked before allowed to go on the site or a temporary or permanent suspension of your ability to participate in any or all of growfruitandveg.co.uk community areas.

    If you submit or share offensive or inappropriate content to or with any growfruitandveg.co.uk communities or anywhere else on growfruitandveg.co.uk or otherwise engage in any disruptive behaviour on growfruitandveg.co.uk, and Aceville Publications (2001) Limited considers such behaviour to be serious and/or repeated, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited may use whatever information that is available to it about you to stop any further such infringements. This may include informing relevant third parties such as your employer, school or email provider about the infringement(s).

    Aceville Publications (2001) Limited reserves the right to delete any contribution, or take action against any Aceville Publications (2001) Limited account, at any time, for any reason.
    Last edited by SarzWix; 14-03-2013, 01:33 PM.

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  • zazen999
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    Signature space for hire

    Hi Grapes.

    If anyone contacts you requesting that they 'hire' your signature space, please let us know so that we can ban them immediately. Just hit the red triangle on the PM and it comes straight to us.

    Rest assured - the person that has done a round of this today is already gone but I suspect they will be back.

    If you DO decide to hire it out - then we will be removing it anyway so don't bother!

    Thanks.
    Last edited by zazen999; 12-05-2012, 02:56 PM.

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  • zazen999
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    Removal of Signatures explanation

    Hi Grapes.

    As Moderators we have to ensure that not only spammers are kept out of the Vine, but that the minimum of 'surreptitious' advertising is kept down.

    Sometimes, people will put their websites into their signatures which we have to look at and ensure that no sales or advertising is going on within.

    Often, although the website looks helpful it often links to products that the website/blog owner are either selling or take a cut of the money.

    When these are removed, the first answer that I get is that 'you have websites in your signature too and loads of people have them'; well, yes we do but we don't make any money out of them.

    Some people are allowed links, but that is because they are PAID UP advertisers with the magazine; and these are allowed due to this.

    Thus, if your signature is removed; it is put to the Admin team at the magazine, and you will eventually be asked to either remove it completely, to stop putting links into other threads to your website or any other action that the Magazine Admin team deem necessary.

    We often will remove the signature link until we hear back from the admin team in which case we will get back to you as soon as we hear back. Sometimes, they will contact you directly.

    We are writing this thread as a link, so if you have been directed here as a result of a signature removal; please can you take it up with the Admin team or wait until they make a decision rather than start a PM conversation with us - we are just here to Moderate and don't really want to engage in long drawn out arguments about it.

    If you are unsure of the rules it will be section 13.i that you are looking for [no advertising or promotion].

    We very rarely will remove links on the 'homepage' section of your profile, so could we ask politely that if your website does have advertising, please leave the link there and everyone will be happy.

    Many Thanks

    The Moderators.
    Last edited by bearded bloke; 01-01-2014, 08:56 PM. Reason: removed dead hyperlink

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  • SarzWix
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    Without wanting to discourage the community spirit inherent in the chat section, there have been some concerns about some health related topics.

    Whilst it can be helpful to talk to friends and like minded people about health concerns, any immediate health problems should be discussed with your own GP, or in an emergency situation NHS Direct can be called on 0845 4647.

    Please bear in mind that any advice given by members of this forum is incidental to any professional expertise and is not being given in their professional capacity.
    Last edited by zazen999; 24-02-2010, 08:58 AM.

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  • zazen999
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    13. You agree to use growfruitandveg.co.uk communities (including message boards) in accordance with the following Community Rules. These apply across all growfruitandveg.co.uk community sites and services. You should, however, read the local house rules of the particular site or service you're using, as there may be some local variations to these Community Rules.

    (i) About your posts:

    Contributions must be civil and tasteful.

    No disruptive, offensive or abusive behaviour: contributions must be constructive and polite, not mean-spirited or contributed with the intention of causing trouble.

    No unlawful or objectionable content: unlawful, harassing, defamatory, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, racially offensive or otherwise objectionable material is not acceptable.

    Be patient: users of all ages and abilities may be taking part in the relevant growfruitandveg.co.uk community.

    No spamming or off-topic material: we don't allow the submission of the same or very similar contributions many times. Please don't re-submit your contribution to more than one discussion, or contribute off-topic material in subject-specific areas.

    No advertising or promoting. Links to products and services are acceptable only in context (response to a post) and only when no alternative wording is available. Users are never permitted to promote their own services or products. Nor are users permitted to promote third party services or products in exchange for money, gifts, aid or other benefits for themselves, their family or others.

    No spoilers: material which contains plot developments which haven't been transmitted on UK television will be deleted unless submitted in a designated 'spoilers' area or marked as a 'spoiler'.

    Contributions containing languages other than English may be removed unless allowed in the relevant local house rules.

    No impersonation.

    No inappropriate (e.g. vulgar, offensive etc) user names.

    URLs (web site addresses) can only be posted if allowed under any relevant local house rules.

    Deliberate misuse of the complaints facility is not permitted. If you persist in doing this, action may be taken against your account.

    (ii) Your Aceville Publications (2001) Limited Account:

    If you use multiple logins for the purpose of disrupting a community or annoying other users you may have action taken against all of your accounts.

    All accounts must be registered with a valid personal email address that you access regularly so that moderation emails can be sent to you. Accounts registered with someone else's email address, or with temporary email addresses may be closed without notice. We may require users to re-validate their account if we believe they have been using an invalid email address.

    Aceville Publications (2001) Limited reserves the right to close accounts if any user is seen to be using proxy IPs (Internet Protocol addresses) in order to attempt to hide the use of multiple Aceville Publications (2001) Limited accounts, or if an non UK user pretends to be a UK user, or disrupts any of our services in any way.

    (iii) Safety:

    We advise that you never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example: telephone number, postal address, home address or email address or any other details that would allow you to be personally identified) in any Aceville Publications (2001) Limited community.

    (iv) Legal requirements:

    You may not submit or share any defamatory or illegal material of any nature in growfruitandveg.co.uk communities. This includes text, graphics, video, programs or audio.

    Contributing material to a growfruitandveg.co.uk community with the intention of committing or promoting an illegal act is strictly prohibited.

    You agree to submit to or share with growfruitandveg.co.uk communities only contributions which are your own original work. You must not violate, plagiarise, or infringe the rights of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or third parties including copyright, trade mark, trade secrets, privacy, publicity, personal or proprietary rights.

    (v) If you're under 16:

    Please get a parent's or guardian's permission before taking part in any growfruitandveg.co.uk community.

    Never reveal any personal information about yourself or anyone else (for example, school, telephone number, your full name, home address or email address).

    (vi) If you breach these Community Rules:

    If you fail to abide by these Community Rules (and/or any variations in relevant local house rules) when taking part in a growfruitandveg.co.uk community, you will be sent an email which informs you why your contribution has been refused or edited. This email will also include a warning that continuing to break the rules may result in action being taken against your account or accounts.

    This action may include any content posted by you being checked before allowed to go on the site or a temporary or permanent suspension of your ability to participate in any or all of growfruitandveg.co.uk community areas.

    If you submit or share offensive or inappropriate content to or with any growfruitandveg.co.uk communities or anywhere else on growfruitandveg.co.uk or otherwise engage in any disruptive behaviour on growfruitandveg.co.uk, and Aceville Publications (2001) Limited considers such behaviour to be serious and/or repeated, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited may use whatever information that is available to it about you to stop any further such infringements. This may include informing relevant third parties such as your employer, school or email provider about the infringement(s).

    Aceville Publications (2001) Limited reserves the right to delete any contribution, or take action against any Aceville Publications (2001) Limited account, at any time, for any reason.

    Disclaimers and Limitation of Liability

    14. The majority of content posted in growfruitandveg.co.uk communities is created by members of the public. The views expressed are theirs and unless specifically stated are not those of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or Aceville Publications (2001) Limited. Neither Aceville Publications (2001) Limited nor Aceville Publications (2001) Limited are responsible for any content posted by members of the public on growfruitandveg.co.uk or for the availability or content of any third party sites that are accessible through growfruitandveg.co.uk. Any links to third party websites from growfruitandveg.co.uk do not amount to any endorsement of that site by Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or Aceville Publications (2001) Limited and any use of that site by you is at your own risk.

    15. Nothing in these terms limits or excludes Aceville Publications (2001) Limited's liability for death or personal injury caused by its proven negligence. Subject to the previous sentence, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited and/or Aceville Publications (2001) Limited shall not be liable for any of the following losses or damage (whether such damage or losses were foreseen, foreseeable, known or otherwise): (a) loss of data; (b) loss of revenue or anticipated profits; (c) loss of business; (d) loss of opportunity; (e) loss of goodwill or injury to reputation; (f) losses suffered by third parties; or (g) any indirect, consequential, special or exemplary damages arising from the use of growfruitandveg.co.uk regardless of the form of action.

    16. Aceville Publications (2001) Limited do not warrant that functions available on growfruitandveg.co.uk will be uninterrupted or error free, that defects will be corrected, or that growfruitandveg.co.uk or the server that makes it available are free of viruses or bugs. You acknowledge that it is your responsibility to implement sufficient procedures and virus checks (including anti-virus and other security checks) to satisfy your particular requirements for the accuracy of data input and output.

    General

    17. If any of these terms are determined to be illegal, invalid or otherwise unenforceable by reason of the laws of any state or country in which these terms are intended to be effective, then to the extent and within the jurisdiction in which that term is illegal, invalid or unenforceable, it shall be severed and deleted from these terms and the remaining terms shall survive and continue to be binding and enforceable.

    18. The failure or delay of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited to exercise or enforce any right in these terms does not waive Aceville Publications (2001) Limited's right to enforce that right.

    19. These terms shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of England and Wales which shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any disputes.
    Last edited by Dave; 16-01-2014, 12:56 PM. Reason: Cleared up wording on permitted links

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  • zazen999
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    T&c

    Terms and conditions of website use

    Access to and use of 'growfruitandveg.co.uk' both within the UK and internationally is provided by Aceville Publications (2001) Limited on the following terms:

    1. By using growfruitandveg.co.uk you agree to be bound by these terms, which shall take effect immediately on your first use of growfruitandveg.co.uk. If you do not agree to be bound by all of the following terms please do not access, use and/or contribute to growfruitandveg.co.uk.

    2. Aceville Publications (2001) Limited may change these terms from time to time and so you should check these terms regularly. Your continued use of growfruitandveg.co.uk will be deemed acceptance of the updated or amended terms. If you do not agree to the changes, you should cease using this website. If there is any conflict between these terms and specific local terms appearing elsewhere on growfruitandveg.co.uk (including house rules) then the latter shall prevail.

    Use of growfruitandveg.co.uk

    3. You agree to use growfruitandveg.co.uk only for lawful purposes, and in a way that does not infringe the rights of, restrict or inhibit anyone else's use and enjoyment of growfruitandveg.co.uk. Prohibited behaviour includes harassing or causing distress or inconvenience to any person, transmitting obscene or offensive content or disrupting the normal flow of dialogue within growfruitandveg.co.uk.

    Intellectual Property

    4. All copyright, trade marks, design rights, patents and other intellectual property rights (registered and unregistered) in and on growfruitandveg.co.uk and all content (including all applications) located on the site shall remain vested in Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or its licensors (which includes other users). You may not copy, reproduce, republish, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, download, post, broadcast, transmit, make available to the public, or otherwise use growfruitandveg.co.uk content in any way except for your own personal, non-commercial use. You also agree not to adapt, alter or create a derivative work from any growfruitandveg.co.uk content except for your own personal, non-commercial use. Any other use of growfruitandveg.co.uk content requires the prior written permission of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited.

    5. The names, images and logos identifying Aceville Publications (2001) Limited, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or third parties and their products and services are subject to copyright, design rights and trade marks of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited and/or third parties. Nothing contained in these terms shall be construed as conferring any licence or right to use any trade mark, design right or copyright of Aceville Publications (2001) Limited, Aceville Publications (2001) Limited or any other third party.

    Electronic Communications

    6. As a registered member you will occasionally receive e-mail updates about special offers, new services and other news. We hope you'll find these updates interesting and informative. But if you'd rather not receive them, let us know by changing your E-Subscription Preferences (Receive Email from Administrators option) in your Control Panel.

    Contributions to Aceville Publications (2001) Limited

    7. By sharing any contribution (including any text, photographs, graphics, video or audio) with Aceville Publications (2001) Limited you agree to grant to Aceville Publications (2001) Limited, free of charge, permission to use the material in any way it wants (including modifying and adapting it for operational and editorial reasons) for Aceville Publications (2001) Limited services in any media worldwide (including on Aceville Publications (2001) Limited's site accessed by international users).

    8. Copyright in your contribution will remain with you and this permission is not exclusive, so you can continue to use the material in any way including allowing others to use it.

    9. In order that Aceville Publications (2001) Limited can use your contribution, you confirm that your contribution is your own original work, is not defamatory and does not infringe any UK laws, that you have the right to give Aceville Publications (2001) Limited permission to use it for the purposes specified above, and that you have the consent of anyone who is identifiable in your contribution or the consent of their parent / guardian if they are under 16.

    10. Please do not endanger yourself or others, take any unnecessary risks or break any laws when creating content you may share with Aceville Publications (2001) Limited.

    11. If you do not want to grant Aceville Publications (2001) Limited the permission set out above on these terms, please do not submit or share your contribution to or with growfruitandveg.co.uk.

    growfruitandveg.co.uk communities

    12. In order to participate in and contribute to selected growfruitandveg.co.uk communities you are required to register with growfruitandveg.co.uk. Any personal information supplied to growfruitandveg.co.uk as part of this registration process and/or any other interaction with growfruitandveg.co.uk will be collected, stored and used in accordance with Aceville Publications (2001) Limited Privacy Policy.
    Last edited by zazen999; 04-01-2010, 08:35 PM.

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  • SarzWix
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    PLEASE DON'T POST PHOTOS OF CHILDREN WHO AREN'T PART OF YOUR FAMILY, WITHOUT PERMISSION FROM THEIR PARENTS!

    I'm sorry, but there are laws about these things, and, if someone was posting photos of my kids on the internet without my permission I'd go absolutely bananas....
    Last edited by SarzWix; 01-11-2009, 03:44 PM.

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  • SarzWix
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    MULTIPLE USER-NAMES

    We would like to remind all members that Multiple-User Accounts are not accepted on the Grapevine without good reason. Where partners/offspring are members, we would ask that this is made clear to avoid confusion. If a Grape is having problems with their original account and is forced to re-register, the Mods and/or Admin should be notified, hopefully the original account will be able to be restored.

    Any multiple user-accounts attempting to; add weight to a heated debate, harrass other Grapes, or otherwise deceive or antagonise, are liable to all accounts being banned. Any attempt to register another user-name after being banned will lead to a full IP address block.

    We know that this will be unnecessary information for the majority of our members, but unfortunately it has become necessary to clarify this point.
    Last edited by SarzWix; 23-10-2009, 10:25 PM.

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  • zazen999
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    Hi Grapes.

    We have tagged this onto the Guidance thread, rather than start a new thread, both for info and to remind grapes of the above.

    Regarding...PM Abuse:

    It has been brought to our attention recently that several Grapes have received Personal Messages that are not in the spirit of the Vine, ie not for info, for seed swaps, or are of an unfriendly content.

    Grapes receiving these may consider them to be from a Troll, or a one off, or might brush them aside. However, if this if happening and nobody is reporting it, then nothing can be done about it.

    PMs can be directly forwarded to us, and all of us can be included, so that the content can be monitored and necessary action taken.

    We WILL ban and block Grapes who abuse this system, but we can only do so if we are alerted to the situation.

    For info, Mods are:
    Nicos, Bren in Pots, Mr Bones, Ms-T,
    Kind regards, and happy Gardening

    The Mods.
    Last edited by Bren In Pots; 01-06-2023, 07:53 PM.

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  • zazen999
    started a topic Guidance for Members [Incl. T&Cs]

    Guidance for Members [Incl. T&Cs]

    Dear Grapes

    Please can we bear in mind that this is a family gardening forum, and whilst general chat is actively encouraged, we must be aware that not all contributors are all in agreement on all topics.

    Very occasionally, the Mods have to try and sort out individual disagreements, or close a thread [either for a cooling-off period or for good], or even to delete a thread in its entirety.

    None of us take any of this lightly, we do try and limit our work to keeping the spammers away from the site, and thank all of you who diligently make us aware of situations that need looking at. We do try and only 'light moderate' wherever possible.

    We do however, have to take a wider viewpoint and if any Grapes do feel that we have made the wrong decision, we can be contacted to discuss any actions on our part. We would like to do this outside of the general forum in the first instance wherever possible, as sometimes things are personal and aren't best in a public forum. We also have no way of knowing if we have upset anyone and cannot PM everyone on a thread that has been closed or deleted, it is just not possible to do so every time.

    Part of our wider viewpoint is that this is a public forum and therefore if you discuss (say) something that has happened to a friend or neighbour, you aren't, in fact, telling a few friends in confidence but potentially 1000s of strangers. Same goes for if you discuss your own medical details, family difficulties etc.

    Whilst people haven't named names, there have been quite a few threads recently that, whilst well meant, have discussed quite intimate details about other people's lives. Should anyone feel the 'need', it generally wouldn't be that hard to track down the identities of those concerned.

    We also all have lives outside of the Vine, as this is not a day job, and we all dip in and out - on all days [and nights] of the week. In order to contact us, at the bottom of the forum home page is a link called 'view forum leaders'. If Grapes click on this, Grapes can see who is online and send a PM or an email to any of us and we will look into the matter.

    Please remember to:
    Keep it courteous
    Try not to stray into contentious or 'near the knuckle' territory
    Spats will simply be locked or deleted - we do not have time to monitor each and every post
    Remember that this is not a 'free speech' forum, but a lively gardening forum.

    Yours.

    The Mods.

    *reminder of the rules that everyone signed up to:
    By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.
    The owners of The Grapevine reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.
    Last edited by zazen999; 22-03-2009, 10:24 PM.

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