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    I rather suspect that for every 100 people buying a kiwi, even a supposedly 'self fertile' kind, there is only one who ever gets them to successfully fruit. That's because the UK climate isn't really friendly to them, as they tend to flower early in the season; many male and female plants don't flower at the same time; few people bother to prune them correctly and just get a mass of foliage; and even if fruit does set, it takes so long to ripen that it rots on the vine before it is picked.
    Knowing this to be the case, I decided to buy a 'Kiwai', Actinidia arguta, that has a small gooseberry sized fruit. The advantage of these is you eat the whole fruit without peeling, the taste is sweeter, and they flower and set fruit after the main frosts. I grew one successfully for three years which had quite a few fruit (it WAS autofertile, one called 'Issai') but then it died during last winter that was really cold. It started making new shoots but they all withered and died in the spring.
    I wondered if anyone on this forum has ever grown this variety of Actinidia with success, and what they did to get it grow vigorously (it never made any real growth with us), and whether anyone knows of a source of seed for Actinidia arguta or where you can get the fruits. I've never seen any for sale in France but I'm surprised this 'mini kiwi' is not more popular. The flavour of the handful I managed to enjoy last year was wonderful!

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    Here's another thread about them that may help.http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...rry_63702.html
    I bought the Kiwiberry fruit in the supermarket but wasn't really committed to trying to grow it from seed - either that or it takes a very long time to germinate!
    Last edited by veggiechicken; 24-10-2012, 01:15 PM.

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    • #3
      I planted two Issais which died, the third one ( I was determined) has in the past few weeks done that kiwi thing of throwing up about 10 fifteen foot long shoots that have lassoed everything in reach. As its gone into unholy alliance with the jerusalem artichokes I can no longer get up the garden path, though as I was trying to untangle things I did come across one little furry fruit. I think it was planted two years ago and had the same treatment as the departed ones. I think they either die or you live to regret the fact that they didn't.

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      • #4
        lol - I've got some jerusalem artichokes, so I spose I should try for an unholy alliance as well
        Ali

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        • #5
          Thanks for the info about Issai and the kiwiberry. It's interesting that your kiwais died too, which is why I was trying to get some Act. arguta seed as the Issai was so weak growing. I tried every method I could think of to get it to take from cuttings in the three years it survived, from layering, to using green shoots to hardwood, and nothing worked! I also tried to graft some buds on to a standard kiwi but that failed too. I'm thinking that Act. arguta from seed might just be more vigorous. I got some seed from the USA but despite stratifying some for the required period in the fridge and sowing some 'fresh', I got no germination at all.

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          • #6
            I do wrap the stems in fleece in spring to prevent the buds getting frosted. Then, of course, I have to unwrap them very carefully once the buds start to break to avoid ripping them off. I do have a lot of flowers in my kiwis ( 3 large, 1 Issai) but no fruit on the rampant large ones (which may have been mislabelled as 2 females and a male but all have similar flowers).

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