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    Well, it's been named plant of the year at RHS Chelsea...

    I tasted my first ones today. They're a third of the size of m.nigra and if you wait till they are totally black they taste sweet, but don't have any flavour at all. The ones with a bit of red left in them taste more like mulberries, but sort of a faded version and not very juicy. The texture is slightly rubbery, which is also a bit off-putting.

    I don't know whether my watering, or lack of, impacts on the flavour/texture - I'd love to know what others think and whether there's a way to improve it. If they stay like this, I personally wouldn't bother splashing out on it. It's nice, but nowhere near the utter gorgeousness of a proper juicy mulberry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparrow100 View Post
    Well, it's been named plant of the year at RHS Chelsea...

    I tasted my first ones today. They're a third of the size of m.nigra and if you wait till they are totally black they taste sweet, but don't have any flavour at all. The ones with a bit of red left in them taste more like mulberries, but sort of a faded version and not very juicy. The texture is slightly rubbery, which is also a bit off-putting.

    I don't know whether my watering, or lack of, impacts on the flavour/texture - I'd love to know what others think and whether there's a way to improve it. If they stay like this, I personally wouldn't bother splashing out on it. It's nice, but nowhere near the utter gorgeousness of a proper juicy mulberry.
    Sparrow, thanks for the update, from what you've written I think I'll hold off ordering one at least for this year, have more than enough things to do in the garden anyway.

    You've also confirmed what I suspected about these new hybrid varieties, i.e. they trade good old fashioned flavour for one or two 'special' features e.g. fast growing or small size.
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    Question Fragile little bush

    I purchased a dwarf Mulberry: Charlotte Russe and repotted carefully, ensuring that all conditions were met.

    The bush appeared to thrive, initially, but then lost all its leaves. I am left with a fragile little bush bereft of all its original leaves (new growth has appeared, which is promising) BUT a dozen or more fledgling fruits. Whether these will plump up and ripen remains to be seen...

    I'd be interested to hear if anyone else had the same or similar experience with the leaves dropping.

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    Did you keep it inside or out? If it was outside it may have initially got too cold. If it was inside I have no clue I'm afraid.
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    Ive spent the past 2 weeks hardening mine off (several leaves seem to have been scorched on the edges but I think it's doing ok) then I stuck it in the ground yesterday. I hope it'll be ok, no leaf drop as yet.

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    Default Mojo Berry

    Hi, this plant came through a few weeks ago from Burfords Garden Centre and it has taken off like a, well like a mulberry, but to be fair with the weather we have been having you could be ripening mangoes here at the moment.

    The label on the pot, which I preserved and displayed next to the plant calls it the "mojo berry"and it appears imo to share characteristics with the dwarf Morus Issai, which has been grown for some years.

    It came with a fair number of unripe berries of which a few have turned black and the sweet taste/ juice and texture imo is similar to nigra which I also grow, perhaps a diluted version to some degree, but very happy with this as a potential indicator, considering this is from a young plant supplied in a small pot. My experience with other fruit is as the plant estabilishes itself well the flavours develop.

    Btw in reply to the original poster a grafted nigra can fruit well even in the first year in my experience and by the second year can be bearing several hundred fruit.

    Personally I am looking forward to the unique aspect of having a mulberry that grows naturally to a human level, in the same way as cherry trees on gisela 5 with the added benefits of a longer fruiting period.

    footnote - I may throw a hessian wrap over the plant over the winter months described as an online discussion/ anectodes about trials with Charlotte Russe have got me thinking this may be worth it as a contingency. Nigra leafs out late after frosts but observations by some indicate other varieties such as the Shahtoot and Issai have can leaf out early risking damage to buds/ newly emerging leafs.
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    Default Any updates?

    I also bought a Charlotte Russe Mulberry which arrived A few weeks ago looking a little Twiggy but has been leaving out under the LED. I'm curious to see if peoples berries harvested later in the summer improved any. I also have a king James Chelsea tree planted outside (here in Dublin) as a standard in a root bag that went in a year ago and I have a black Persian in a pot that I am over wintering inside. I also have an Illinois ever bearing on the way. All this without ever having tested a single Mullberry! I really hope I like them!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChonk View Post
    I'm curious to see if peoples berries harvested later in the summer improved any.
    Nope. Still a pale copy of a true black mulberry.
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