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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeywills View Post
    I've had a good look at your estimator FB, and it has listed the following apples which suit my conditions on a M27 rootstock.

    Ashmeads Kernal, Bountiful, Braeburn, Charles Ross, Discovery, Egremont russet, Ellisons Orange, Fiesta, Greensleaves, James Grieve, Lord Lamborne, Red Devil, Red Falstaff, Red Windsor, Scotts Dumpling, Scrumptious, Spartan, Sunrise, Sunset, and Worcester Pearmain.

    Of these I fancy, Spartan, Discovery, James Grieve, Lord Lamborne, Fiesta, Red Falstaff, Sunrise, and Sunset. I appreciate I won't be able to fit all of these into my small 6 metres straight run, but how many would work, and are there any of those above which don't work together. Its all a bit confusing to be honest.

    The calculator only considers the rootstock/climate interaction; the scion is not considered as there are many thousands and that would make for a very long and boring drop-down list! So only rootstock is independently selected as there are relatively few to complicate matters.

    The varieties recommended are simply those which are readily available and grow at about the rate you entered. Some or all of the varieties being suggested to you may lack disease resistance unless sprayed, or may be prone to certain problems in certain areas.


    In your six-metre run, you could probably put five or six M27's, allowing about a metre of space for each. Vigorous varieties will need more space - say 1.2-1.5m (4-5 trees) and very vigorous varieties about 1.5-2m (3-4 trees).
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    Thanks FB, I've got two apple trees in the garden, and espalier and a stepover, and for the life of me I can't remember what either of them are. The stepover, I'm going to have to move as it doesn't like its position since I've planted some lavender in the same bed. I'm quite new to growing apples really so everything is a big learning curve.

    What I didn't want to do on the allotment was put varieties in which wouldn't like the conditions. As for the disease resistance well I'm going to have to investigate a bit more, as I have no idea if South Wales is susceptible to any particle diseases.

    Thank you for the dimension recommendations, it gives me a much clearer idea of what is achievable, and should allow me to narrow the selection process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeywills View Post
    I have no idea if South Wales is susceptible to any particle diseases.
    I'd suggest not getting varieties with any major disease weaknesses unless you plan to spray.
    I'd suggest pay particular attention to resistance to scab because scab thrives in mild damp conditions.
    Scab-prone varieties often end up with the fruit skins being split by scab and the inner flesh is then exposed to rot-fungi and insects.
    Note, however, that disease resistance isn't definitive; it often depends where you are. Only last week myself and Orangepippin were singing the priases of the apple variety "Spartan" as being free from pests and disease (Cambs & Yorks), while a couple of the other growers from the SouthWest implied that Spartan was virtually un-growable there on account of canker and scab.
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