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    Many many thanks for all replies, pls keep it coming.

    Allotment is very close to my house and it is super secure with full fencing and locked gate. I havent heard any issues whatsoever from neighbours. So I am leaning towards GH route and a locked tool safe next to it (keter plastic one) which I hope can get away with. Most holders have Shed but few have GHs. I saw one plot having both but I am sure it is not allowed.

    Apple trees; I only have 1 I just planted (the leftmost one), it is only 1ft tall and I plan to train 3 them on a frame. I saw much bigger trees on the site. I thought about the shadowing issue but I will keep them small.

    What about how to fill the beds? Do you recommend getting a certain compost and from where?

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    Snadger, that ghed (sound like a good hybrid name to me) looks amazing. I wish I am handy as you as I would love to build one. Do you know any place that sell them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selymbria View Post

    What about how to fill the beds? Do you recommend getting a certain compost and from where?

    Cheers
    Many different ways and depends on what your gardening method is going to be and what material you can lay your hands on. You could try nodig - there are a couple of methods for creating a bed for that too but the simplest would be to place a layer of cardboard over the top and then a few inches of compost on top of that and plant into that compost. If you fancy that route Charles Dowding is your friend And you will need to allocate space on your plot for compost bins for ongoing layering each year but compost bins are a good idea whichever gardening method you choose.
    Do you have a water source on site ? If not then you will need guttering on your 'ghed' and water butts.
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    Yes, there is a tap 20m away so water is not an issue. I will go with the simplest method this year and learn. I heard the biggest issue is bandweed and slugs so I need to brace for them

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    If you have slug issues and don't mind spending a little penny, get some nemaslug. It's a powder that you mix out with water and pour that all over your plot. A large pack should cover most of your allotment, not just the beds either. The nematodes basically kill the slugs and it's very efficient

    Bindweed is a pain on my plot too, and has been on all my plots and gardens.... but once you cut them back, they're easy to identify and just keep hoeing them. I wouldn't bother digging them out, I just cut them back. They do weaken eventually.

    Your layout looks good! If I had to choose, I'd have a shed over a greenhouse on the plot, mostly because anything in pots will need watering daily in the summer when it's sunny, and I can't get to my plot that often. I have a greenhouse at home though, and I grow most seedlings at home.

    I've tried aubergines in full sun outdoors two years on the trot and got nothing from them despite being fairly decent summers. I would try them only in a greenhouse, but I prefer tomatoes, so no aubergine room in mine!
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    Hi Selymbria,
    If you like eating home grown melons and aubergines, then I would suggest going with either a greenhouse or a ghed, as they tend to like a bit of warmth/shelter.

    I have a greenhouse and no shed. Plot is too far to walk from home, so I usually take the car and whatever tools I need travel with me. Our site gets about 3 rounds of breakins each year and I wouldn’t like to lose my favourite digging spade;-)
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    Hmm, would a polytunnel over raised beds be the best of both worlds? I mean, giving aubergines a heated environment but requiring no watering (or less than in GH)?
    I dont like the look of the tunnels tbh, too much plastic

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    The most important word in your description is "neglected".

    From your diagram it seems you have a roughly square 8 metre x 8 metre plot so approx 64 m2.

    You need to concentrate on deweeding, scalping tuff and digging over compacted beds.

    Create x3 12ft x 5ft beds pointing towards the sun at starting at the most south westerly corner of your plot.

    Youve got till the end of March because then you wanna be sticking your x3 beds of potatoes. These are gonna help break up soil for you. First earlies, second earlies and mains (LAS = leave all season)

    Soil too hard or sticky at moment unless you cover beds with tarp to dry out. Your gonna be busy the end of Feb / March.

    Sharpened spade.

    Probably x6 full days there... for starters.
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