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    Hi and welcome to the vine!
    Yes, do a little at a time, and if you clear/dig ground now, cover it with cardboard or black plastic if you can, so that it doesn't get weeds before you're ready to plant anything out.

    In the early spring, make use of that greenhouse you have, to raise plants from seed, that need protection from frost.

    In a couple of months you can start raising tomato plants at home on a window sill, so its not that long to go before the new season!

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    Hi and welcome to the club ;-)

    I agree, getting one or two fellow allotment holders to cast an eye around your plot is a good idea. Take some coloured wool or something to mark the plants they recommend you keep!

    Do you have any friends or family with a gardening interest who you could rope in? Internet sites like https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/common-weeds helped me with a few others which my family didn’t know.

    And, of course, with a close up photo, we can probably identify some too ;-)

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    Nothing wrong with rotovating - one proviso, don't do it if the ground is frozen.

    I agree with others about the fruit tree - no way to be sure, but I'll take a punt on it being an apple - if you care to take a close up photo then it should be possible to get a better guesstimate.

    As for seed sowing, I agree its not the simplest place to start, but for anyone contemplating vegetable gardening its really the "pons asinorum " of the practical side. Besides which a lot of seeds are quite cheap and you learn by making mistakes as well as getting things right - one way or another knowledge has to be paid for.

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    A different opinion to rotovating....identify your weeds first. I would not rotovate if Bindweed was present as chopping the roots will just create loads of new plants

    Welcome to the vine, enjoy the benefits of the advice and humour
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    Welcome along...

    Looks like you've got a bit of a hidden gem there with that plot, or is it a rough diamond. Good time of year to get one - you've got time to sort it out before Spring. Don't overdo it though - its meant to be fun.
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    I've been to my plot today, which is in slightly worse condition than yours, to drop off a load of leaves, shredded paper and coffee grounds. I'm not officially allowed to start work yet, as the contract hasn't been signed off, but I did have a good rummage.
    I found that there are nine trees on the plot, two confirmed apples and one pear. The rest - no idea, but I'm thinking two could be ornamental cherries, and one could be a plum.
    I also found two rhubarbs, currant bush, lots of brambles, a rosemary bush, two wheelbarrows, two daleks, lots of containers, an old BBQ and a trampoline!
    The plot next door was recently cultivated too, but now not occupied, which has a greenhouse, a small shed and a whole load of wood that looks useful. I have spoken with the council about that and they've said we can help ourselves to stuff on the unoccupied plots so that's helpful!
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    Thank you everybody for the advice! I really appreciate it.

    We went back today and we managed to rope in a fellow allotment-folk and she said that the tree was a plum tree! Lovely! She also said the soil on this particular patch is fantastic. We started de-weeding today and the soil really is lovely and crumbly, itís perfect (as far as my very limited knowledge of soil goes anyway ).

    There were also what looked like raspberries and blackberries growing in all the bramble at the side and behind the big shed. We found some strange root things that were rotting in the ground, I didnít take a photo of the rotting ones because I just wanted it out as soon as possible so I rushed it lol... but they were not pleasant! and I also took some photos a little closer of random growing thingies. If anybody could point anything out then that would be great! I was carrying my baby so it was really difficult to get closer but Iíll try get some super close ups next time.

    https://instagram.com/p/BqAiDhSAkIu/


    We do have knotweed apparently and the person who runs the allotments said we also have a Japanese knotweed problem here (are they different? The fellow allotment-folk pointed to some stuff on the ground whereas the allotment-running-folk pointed to some big cane looking things. Very confusing.)... and after reading through the common weeds list that
    Chestnut posted yesterday, japanese knotweed sounds pretty awful!

    Anyway we made some progress today! We had our children helping, and our dog was trying his best to eat as many sticks as possible... very helpful indeed lol. I managed to talk my other half down from rotovating the life out of everything before we found out more about this knotweed too

    https://instagram.com/p/BqAiPfMgjGs/


    SarrissUK that sounds great! I was reading about green manure and possibly growing beans everywhere (I have forgotten what type now) and then mixing it into the ground once itís grown a little, but I wasnít sure if I had time to do that in time for spring. Iíll have to look more into it.
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    Looks like a very nice plot and you're all making a good start. Fresh air, exercise and hopefully home grown produce all in one :-)

    As for beans you can grow filed beans over winter and either leave them to crop, or turn them in to the ground as a green manure. Depending on the soil temperature you may be able to get away with sowing the seed directly under a bit of polythene or failing that put in one per pot inside somewhere then plant them out as soon as they show signs of growing.

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