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    I believe that the problem is that the ground where the coop was is lower that the rest of the plot and MissPea is asking about how to raise the level, not the fertility.

    MissPea you may want to do a test pit or two in the area the coop was, especially round the edge as the coop may have had a wire skirt or floor installed to prevent rats getting in.

    How big an area are we talking about being lower and how much lower is it?
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    The full plot so maybe that’s why if there was wire below it they have dug it up. Think it was a massive building going by what the others are like. I’ll try get pictures tomorrow. Hoping (braving ) taking the kids up to find something to do for them haha. It seems like an inch or two from remembering. Need to double check.

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    If it's a bird site and there's other pigeon crees on the site then something you are going to need is brassica / pea cages. Pigeons LOVE these so you'll want to make a cage gig enough for a full grown sprout plant or three.

    Pester your neighbours for all their garden clippings and start up a compost pile. If you know anyone with a horse ask them for the poop and start up a manure pile. Check gumtree and local papers see if anyone has free manure. Check your council and see if they provide discounted soil amendments to allotments and get some of that if you can afford it.
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    I’ll try that. I think they said the place has got club root too so might prove difficult growing brassicas anyway. But I will try �� I don’t know anyone thatll have manure, unfortunately but I’ll keep an eye out on gumtree or something. My friend mentioned when she lived in Stirling, her recycle centre gave out free soil but that’s about an hour away from me. She is also going to help source pallets for a compost bin.
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    Update: so I have two pictures of my progress.
    I went up on the Wednesday and done a little hand digging with weeds, whilst also having a picnic with the kids of course, a man felt sorry for me and gave me a fork �� it really was a losing battle with the couch grass which is a lot more than I thought, so the no dig isn’t going to work this year but can continue hopefully next year once under control. I then went on Saturday and got help with a little patch removing weeds, whilst I done a bit at the back, and on Sunday I cleared the brambles and fern and a dogwood rose (is that even a thing or have I made that up �� ) I also found honeysuckle trying to make its way through, although it wasn’t until I cut it away I seen the flowers in amongst the weeds behind the fence. Still don’t have an idea for a layout. You can see the step down to my plot, and it’s also all on a hill too so need to tackle that (any tips?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissPea View Post
    it really was a losing battle with the couch grass which is a lot more than I thought,
    All on a hill too so need to tackle that (any tips?)
    I feel your pain with the couch grass. We have that too. Year two and winning the battle!
    As you are doing, dig out as many roots as you possibly can, whatever you do don’t compost it unless you have drowned the roots in a bucket/barrel of water for a couple of weeks first.

    Cover what you can’t dig, if you can manure and cover the majority of the couch dies after around 8 months and it seems to bring the remaining living roots to the surface so they are easier to dig out, in our experience.

    Ours also slopes downhill from entrance to end, we put our shed and compost bins at the bottom of the slope.

    With a hill ai would just deal with each bed, edged with wood or mound the soil slightly with a little trench on the downhill side to stop the soil getting washed down the hill, and get the bed itself level’ish. You will never get rid of the slope and while the bottom bit might get soggy if there is a lot of rain hopefully the rest should be okay as excess water will drain to the bottom.

    On the bright side barrowing stuff along the allotment is downhill , I can see why you put your little polytunnel at the bottom to get the shelter from the hedge but beware that frost pockets collect at the bottom of the slope so if you are going to start seeds in there on grow more tender things it might not be ideal.

    Sure someone more experienced will be on to suggest layout ideas. We used a whiteboard to stretch out our ideas until we had a layout we were happy with.

    Ours is. Smaller rotation beds at the top (near the water trough), then all our widlife pond, fruit beds - bushes and trees. Then big beds for squash, courgettes, potatoes. Polytunnel, then sheds, deck next to shed for sitting and flower bed with the compost bins, water ibc tanks, storage area for wheelbarrows etc right at the end.
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    That gives me hope! I fell it'll be never ending, it's growing quick with the forever changing weather so looks worse now that when I started last week, I was just putting it there as i was putting my tools in it and didnt want it near the start, originally I wanted it it the entrance of plot, but for the first year anyway I think i will sow seeds at my house so i have a better chance of looking after them lol.
    anyone have a full proof idea for doing a DIY shed haha?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissPea View Post
    anyone have a fool proof idea for doing a DIY shed haha?
    pallets, lots and lots of pallets

    how much of slope do you have? One side of my plot is ~1 inch per foot in both directions, which has been a challenge

    you could add some terraces to level it out in sections, or if you are planning raised beds deal with it that way

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