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    Has anyone managed to have their manure removed yet?

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    only just seen this thread!

    Free?...hmm...but now out of date.....although I'm leaving my lottie and a complete trailer load of affected manure- I think it'd be good to pass on this info!
    ...maybe now they'll do a reduced collection???
    Thanks for that realfood!

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    Having been told by Dow in September that they would be contacting me after the 16th Oct to arrange removal of 3 tons of contaminated manure from our site(some of which is seeping more contaminate into my greenhouse daily) I was forced to contact them again on the 23rd Nov. I received this reply (interested parties please note and use the name, address and phone no)

    "Thank you for your email.
    We are in the process of contacting a local farmer to see if it is possible for him to pick up the manure and hope to update you soon. Regards, Sarah Hurry, Technical Services Specialist, Dow AgroSciences Limited
    Technical Hotline Telephone: 0800 689 8899"


    It is now well on the way to Xmas. Sarah Hurry, live up to your name!

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    It is all a bit worrying really. We just had a load of manure delivered to the site and although the stables have confirmed that they don't use this weed killer, they do buy their hay and stuff from somewhere else and therefore couldn't confirm that it was definately free of aminopyralid.

    I've read about the test with the broad beans - to grow them in soil mixed with the manure and another without the manure as a control. Would that work outside at this time of the year or do I need to have this in a greenhouse by now??

    I've been informed that it is "assumed" that the manure is free of the weed killer but I don't really fancy taking chances with this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyU View Post
    It is all a bit worrying really. We just had a load of manure delivered to the site and although the stables have confirmed that they don't use this weed killer, they do buy their hay and stuff from somewhere else and therefore couldn't confirm that it was definately free of aminopyralid.

    I've read about the test with the broad beans - to grow them in soil mixed with the manure and another without the manure as a control. Would that work outside at this time of the year or do I need to have this in a greenhouse by now??

    I've been informed that it is "assumed" that the manure is free of the weed killer but I don't really fancy taking chances with this...
    Remember that the broad bean test is not conclusive - it can't prove that the manure is safe only that the manure DOES contain AP.

    By the way the stewardship email is no longer valid to arrange for removal you now need to email UKHotline@dow.com

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    I've just had an email from someone who has actually had his contaminated manure removed. With his permission I can share his concern at the apparent ignorance about the issue shown by the people doing the collection. He tried to explain some points to them.

    The farmer who collected the manure had been given a load of paperwork telling them what they could do with the manure, and what they couldn't, but hadn't read it as it was quite a big list.

    The farmer was going to spread the manure on barley. He appeared to know very little about why he was collecting the manure or what the problem was but had been paid what he called a substantial amount to collect it. He thought that people having been affected by the problem must have been given quite a large amount of compensation and that people must have kicked up quite a stink to get the stuff collected at all.

    It would be interesting to compare what other farmers collecting manure have to say.

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    Just as a postscript:
    In the March addition of GYO mag it advised that a precaution that could be taken to avoid aminopyralid contamination is to stack manure for at least a year to allow any harmful chemicals to break down.

    Whilst this will work in most cases of chemical contamination it will not remove aminopyralid from the manure. In order to break down, aminopyralid must come into contact with soil organisms and so will remain in stacked manure for what could amount to several years.

    Also whilst in the future it should be safer to use stable manure it should be noted that many reports of problems last year related to manure obtained from stables. This could have been stacked in a stable prior to the withdrawal but it could also remain a problem until the new stewardship becomes well established.

    The best advice is to ask your supplier the questions mentioned in the last post.

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    There have been several threads on this now, please can they be merged?
    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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