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    Can the Man is offline Tuber
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    Welcome to the vine and good luck with your plans.

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    Scarlet is offline Gone with the Wind
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    It's the perfect time to plant garlic and giant garlic. I would get some in over the next few weeks.
    You will feel that you are making progress with something in the ground.

    Garlic planting calendar here:
    Last edited by Scarlet; 20-09-2019 at 12:18 AM.
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    Greenleaves is offline The Weed Fairy
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    Welcome to the vine....nothing is impossible no matter how improbable it looks. One of the most important things is to enjoy it

    I am not sure that no dig will defeat the bindweed but as I dont use the method I cant be sure, just keep chopping its head off when it appears.

    Enjoy the benefits of the advice and humour on here and good luck
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    Welcome, and breathe! I have nothing to add to the great advice you've had here, just to say I sometimes get anxious about my plot, too. Usually I post on here, get a hug and some good advice, and then I feel miles better. Sounds like you're doing all the right stuff.
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    Hello and welcome back to the Vine. To be honest, it sounds to me like you're on the right track already. Plus lots of good advice already given. And there was a family on your plot between you and Bill, if I've understood rightly. So any comparisons between your plot as it is now and Bill's as it was then are neither here nor there. It's yours now to enjoy and do with as you see fit.

    So, I don't have much to say except to concur with Scarlet about onions and garlic. Too late to start onions from seed now, so if you want onions, you'll have to go with sets. They should do very well over the winter and give you a nice crop earlier than spring ones. I'd say give them a go. Also, you don't say where you're located. Depending on your weather conditions, autumn planted broad beans might be worth trying.

    Good luck. Hope you have a fun and productive time on your plot.
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    MillieBee2 is offline Germinator
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    I'm doing mine in sections, and taking photos along the way so if it feels like I haven't done very much in the time, I can look at pics and see what I have actually achieved.

    I cleared a couple of beds first, laid bark paths, and put gooseberries and onions in.

    Then I moved to plot middle, cleared beds, put down borders, laid paths. Tomorrow's job is painting fences.
    After that I move to clearing the top third of brambles. Leave the crappy job til last!

    Try making a list of what jobs to do each time you're there, and tick them off.

    I've probably spent about 15 hours working on it, give or take. I am a slow worker, I don't knock myself out! So I think I've done quite well.

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    Bluenowhere is offline Rooter
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    Completely agree with Chestnut. My work means I have to be very very precise and I’m a perfectionist by nature. It took me a good 6 months to get come to terms with our plot not looking as perfect as the retired folk who have 8 hours a day to spend fettling with their plots. Despite ours having started as a couch grass, dock and marestail jungle I was still rather overcritical of myself despite the entire allotment committee telling me how well I was doing!

    Now provided the weeds are down to a dull roar and not smothering anything or seeding themselves that’s okay. The main point is to use it as a relaxing switch off from work stress not to add more stress to my life! And to grow tasty stuff of course. Today’s dinner (excepting two bacon rashers and some cheese that when into our stuffed pepper side dish) was entirely home grown and that feels very good and more than compensated for all the times you feel a bit overwhelmed by it all.

    My only other piece of advice is to take lots of photos so you can look back on progress, it’s easy to forget how far you have come in the moment of upset when slugs eat all your Brussels sprout plants and your broccoli goes to seed, as happen to me this year

    Forgot to say I’d be sceptical that no dig would work with bindweed, it seems to rear its ugly head up through any thickness of mulch as does marestail. A chap two along from us tried no dig for a couple of seasons and the perennial weeds loved it (to be fair CD does say all perennial weeds should be dug out before starting no dig). I do what I class as semi-no dig, plenty of compost, horse manure etc but fork out the perennial weeds and to mix in the organic stuff as we are on heavy clay. No double digging or the like using a spade.
    Last edited by Bluenowhere; 20-09-2019 at 10:44 PM.

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    Wilko411 is offline Germinator
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    What a lovely welcome from you all & so much encouragement 🤗 Snoop Puss Iím in Norwich if that helps and Scarlet thanks for the link.

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