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Old 25-01-2010, 02:28 PM
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Well, its a worry this beekeeping!

Many dead bees outside hive 1, at a guess well over a hundred
hive 2 is not so bad.
When put my ear to the hive and knock they they sound very quiet, have to say I am greatly worried for them- a very tough winter so far.
The sun came out yesterday, sadly only a couple of flying bees to be seen- I know it was cold but the sun did make it warmer and I did think there might be a few more flying. I am somewhere between and

I think there is little I can do - they have bee food (Apifonda) on the top of the frames, I might change it for some fresh as they have hardly touched it.
Roll on the flowering of the hellebores and crocus - pollen time! that will help.

How are our other bee keepers getting on in these tough times.
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Old 25-01-2010, 02:35 PM
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Good luck Headfry, I dont keep bees myself but have always been fastinated by them. I hope all is well!
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Have you got any dandelions? They flower very early and are very important food for bees
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Old 25-01-2010, 04:31 PM
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Poor girls
I don't claim to know anything at all about bees, but I found this on tinterweb. Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs here.

"If winter feeds have too high a water content the bees might not be able to dehydrate it enough to prevent fermentation before winter sets in. Another way to feed in the winter months it to use baker's fondant (the soft icing on cakes) as this won't ferment and the bees can eat it straight away" Wintering Bees - Beekeeping in Winter - Mesh Floors - Feeding Bees
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Old 25-01-2010, 05:00 PM
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Thanks for the kind message northepaul.

Two Sheds, thank you it's kind of you to hunt out info for me and is much appreciated

In the warmer spring/early autumn weeks I feed a sugar syrup solution as evaporating excess water is not such a problem then. This solution is really quick and easy for the bees to store and use. Later in autumn I switched to the Apifonda this is just like the bakers fondant that you mention, but sold by the bee keeping suppliers. There is a little more work involved for the bees, they have to use some water to 'melt' down the fondant but as you say, it does not ferment easily - they are on this fondant now.
I know they will use their own stores and have seen evidence of this as I have slide out boards under the hive floor (so to speak) I can clearly see crumbled/nibbled up wax cappings -where they have broken the seals of the honeycomb to get to their food stores. I hope this is a good sign.
I have told them to hang on in there- the weather will get better. If only I could bundle them up and bring them indoors!

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Old 25-01-2010, 05:14 PM
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I'm always eager to learn new things. Bee-keeping is fascinating, and more complicated than you'd have thought (than I'd have thought)
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Old 25-01-2010, 05:24 PM
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You are so right......
year one is kinda easy,
year two runs along ok,
year three and you realise that there is soooo much to learn! and things never seem to happen as the books say it will! at least not in my girls case- thinking I might leave the books in the hive and tell them to READ!!!! please, pretty please!

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Hope your bees are O.K. Headfry, I know nothing about beekeeping other than it looks fascinating & was wondering do they just 'hibernate' during the very cold weather & do you have to insulate the hives or anything when we have really cold/snowy winters like this one?
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Old 28-01-2010, 09:35 AM
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Hi SueA Thanks for your kind words.

No, not really bees don't hibernate, they form a tight ball around the queen, they are able to generate heat this way and will survive as low as -20'ish I am told!!!!!
You can insulate but the hive must be able to 'breathe' - moisture in the hive is bad this time of year! I worry that if I make the hive 'artificially' warm the bees may think it warm enough to leave the hive. If they 'break' the cluster it can be disastrous for them when its very cold. This cluster moves as one though the hive eating the stores.
They don't fly very much, maybe on a good still, sunny day they may come out and perform their ablutions.

We ready them for winter, feed them well- starting in Autumn, mouse guards on (mice will get in) and protect from woodpeckers (they peck through the wooden hive eat the bees and the honey), insure the hives wont blow over! and that really is as much as we can do, the rest is down to them and a hive load of luck.

I know this may sound silly but it's kinda sad writing about them when I am not sure if they will make it this year. I do love my girls -

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Oh Headfry, I worry about your bees too - all the time - does that sound silly? I'll be doing something and I'll think 'I wonder how Headfry and her bees are'. I really hope they make it through to the milder weather, we have Hellebores and snowdrops about to bloom here already, so I'll keep everything crossed for you all.
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Old 28-01-2010, 11:16 AM
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Awww PB that is so very kind of you.
I am waiting and wishing for my hellebores to start flowering, they will surely help.
I will go over to check again this weekend - sigh - I will report back.
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I didn't know that about them forming a 'cluster', clever little things, they might have struggled round here though as it got to -15 on a couple of nights! Hope they're all O.K. when you get the chance to inspect them.
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Reading about you finding dead bees has made me feel quite sad. I do hope that the weather warms up soon and your bees survive. We make life too difficult for these wonderful insects, they work so hard pollinating - we'd be lost without them. Can't help feeling the amount of pesticides put on crops doesn't help bees.

Here's health to your bees.
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Hi ukmaggie45 and welcome to the vine!
I put my ear against both hives on Saturday, and I could hear quite loud buzzing !!! such a happy headfry
Just need some pollen bearing flowers and warm still days!
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Yay! That sounds more positive Headfry.
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I put my ear against both hives on Saturday, and I could hear quite loud buzzing !!! such a happy headfry
Just need some pollen bearing flowers and warm still days!
Oooh, that sounds better news. I'd love to keep bees, but suspect the neighbours might not be so keen. I think we'll just have to try and make the garden friendly for bumble bees, give them somewhere to sleep and keep warm and safe. Will be haunting the RSPB online shop I guess!
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Come on girls!!! (HF's bees that is, not you lot)

Hope everything starts to improve soon!
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Thanks HeyWayne, daft isnt it but I get so worried about them, they are really just bugs, but to me they are sooo cute and just brilliant to watch, a look in the hive has me totally in love- the little 'waggle' dances they do, the way they have order in the hive, the miles they fly for a tiny drop of honey and find their way home, the way they clean and repair the honey comb even when I have done my worst by taking the honey. The frames are sticky and a little damaged but within a day or two, I cant believe it! they have been cleaned perfectly and repaired like new! brave clever little girls - they make me look stupid!
Roll on spring......


ps even love their dangley little legs when they are in flight

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No way HF!! We (the human race) would be in serious trouble without the honey bee. Long live the bee, and long live you and people like you who tend and care for them.

Go Bees!!!!
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Hi HF, been thinking of you and your girls too. Hopefully things are on the up a bit? On the school run today even through the fog we saw the first glimpse of purple crocuses! Made me and my boys feel quite uplifted! Gardens are bulging with snow drops too. Heres hoping for your girls!
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Headfry, have you seen any of your girls out & about yet? I spotted my first honey bee of the year on Saturday on the snowdrops in Grappenhall walled garden, only the one though but it was a nice sunny day, it's turned very cold again though so maybe they'll go back into the hive again.
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Hi SueA that is good news!
My girls have not really been out yet...maybe just a quick flit round - It is still too cold really.
Did have quick peep under roof (have glass 'quilt' - cover on the hive so I can see without to much disturbance to them.....there they were! - oh they did look lovely, all grouped together round the food I had put in....cant wait for warm weather and to see and hear them flying.......sigh sigh smile awwwwww bless them.
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hi headfry im on on a beekeeping course in march and would love as much info as possible before then if you dont mind please
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Hi bigal123 123
Good to hear that you have managed to get on a course, they are getting booked up really quickly these days!
What kind of information do you need?
Are you definitely going to be keeping bees?
Depending on how many pennies you have to spend I would try to invest in some clothing! this can be worn for your course and will give a great degree of confidence if you know that you are 'bee proof' and will be needed when you get your own bees.
If you are not worried about stings - buy just the minimum but if you are in any way concerned then you cant beat the all in one suit! I have a separate top and trousers and every time I go through my girls I have a bare strip round my back so far I have been very lucky and not got stung- it is just a matter of time I fear. Bee gloves are a must, the soft leather, long gauntlet type are ideal. Wellies are good too, one poor chap on my course got stung all over his feet through wearing shoes. ouch he was fine but came back the following week in Wellies!
Books, books, and internet......do some reading.....beekeeping like all hobbies has its own language, so learning some terms will help.
Great to have another possible bee keeper here!

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Hey Headfry how are the girls?

Awoke this morning to yet more snow !

Not far from you ? Didcot
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Hi Liza thanks for asking.....
Saw one or two fly from each of my two hives Sunday afternoon when the sun broke through. Since I have had them (about 3 years now) they have , at this time of the year started to get busy- I have recorded in my diaries things like- the girls are really busy, coming back with pollen and- lots of flying bees today! but this year nothing to report. I am getting worried- its just so darn cold even in the middle of the day.
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HI Headfry,just wondering if the weather has improved down there? Been warm and sunny here the last 2 days, so I have my fingers crossed for the girls!
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Hi jackyspratty,

Yes, quite a lot better here thanks! hope to try and get a look in their hives tomorrow! Though it is sunny here the air temp is still very low for the bees. It will be my first inspection of the year.
I hope they are ok! I have some food ready to go if they need it!
Thank you for asking
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