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Old 07-06-2008, 02:15 PM
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My Dad planted 4 of these tomato plants in our greenhouse saying they were plum tomatoes. Can anyone tell what they are and whether they are determinate or indeterminate plants??


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Old 07-06-2008, 02:18 PM
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I couldn't tell you from the leaf, but I'm sure someone else maybe along shortly who could. They look pretty healthy.
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Old 07-06-2008, 02:53 PM
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It's not possible to identify it from the leaf, you'll have to wait until a tomato fruits and the shape will confirm it is a plum variety. You should remove the sideshoots that I notice you have, especially the ones just below the flower truss as these will take all the energy away from the fruit.
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:07 PM
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That's the reason I was asking! Whether I should remove the side shoots. I removed some of the smaller ones this morning, then thought I better double check. Some of the side shoots had tiny flower buds on them. Will they still grow more flowers?
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Old 07-06-2008, 03:10 PM
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If in doubt, I'd just let them be. Esp if the side shoots have flowers on them!
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Old 07-06-2008, 05:38 PM
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Just remember that each plant will only produce so much energy, if you leave the side shoots on and end up with more trusses, then the size of the tomatoes will suffer. The norm is to go for 4/6 trusses per plant and get some decent sized tomatoes.

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Old 07-06-2008, 08:27 PM
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They look like the potato leafed variety I am growing called Tamina! If they are................... they need side shoots removing!
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:39 PM
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Agree with you Snadger, I have some Tamina and they look identical to those in the picture.
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Old 08-06-2008, 08:12 AM
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They look like my Vintage Wine
See Vintage Wine Tomato Seeds
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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Thanks!!

I came in from work tonight and noticed that the leaves on the Money Maker's and Black Cherry tomato plants have curled up slightly. Is this normal? Or is there something wrong?

Oh, and I've just fitted a Gardman Auto Vent to my new GH. Which way do you turn the cylinder to increase the opening temperature? Tried turning it both ways but neither way seems to close the window at around 20 degrees. More like 13 degrees.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:22 AM
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I agree with Capsid, they could be any of the potato leaf varieties.
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Old 24-07-2008, 04:50 PM
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Just thought I'd post a pic of the tomatoes on these plants to see if any can identify them now.



Any ideas what they are now???

We also have these growing on the other side of the greenhouse. Can anyone ID them also?


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Old 24-07-2008, 06:18 PM
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The top pic looks like "Marmande" to me - Flat, scalloped beefy tomato with thick flesh and sweet flavour. A favourite of many gardeners

The bottom pic i would say is plum, I had these last year but didn't get much as they were grown clearance stock from homebase.

Hope this helps and sorry if I am wrong
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Old 24-07-2008, 09:01 PM
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The bottom one is lemons
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Old 24-07-2008, 10:02 PM
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The bottom one is lemons


That's what I said the the Mrs this afternoon.
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Old 24-07-2008, 11:47 PM
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I thought the top one was Tigerella, but whatever it is it looks good.
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Old 25-07-2008, 11:41 AM
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I'm growing some Super Marmande (rather than Marmande - but it's pretty much the same) and it doesn't have the variated colouration pattern all the way down the sides so I don't think that's what's in the top picture.

The tomatoes do have the colouration of Tigerella, but Tigerella isn't a potato leaved tomato - and i think has smooth shoulders.

Not much help here from me tho to tell you what it is !!
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Old 25-07-2008, 10:43 PM
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In my experience i would say the 1st pic is "Beefstake" tomato and the 2nd pic is "Roma" plum tomato.. i have grown both varieties before, on the 1st lot are you seeing less fruits per truss and the 2nd seems more of a bush than a cordon?? hope this helps, tigerella is what i am growing this year as i did last year, it gets strips towards the ripening and is quite a meaty tomato
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Old 27-07-2008, 10:48 AM
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I'm not going to be much help either, as there are oodles of varieties, big question.

But agree with djhs, they aren't any of those offered. There are plenty of plum tomatoes too, it's just the shape not a variety.

Hope they will taste nice and you can save seed if still can't find out when ripe, what they are.
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Old 27-07-2008, 11:42 PM
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Is it possible to ask you Dad what they are? Did he grow them from seed, or buy plants at a garden centre? If seed, does he have the packet still, if garden centre, you could ring the GC and ask them which varieties they were selling. With a shortlist there might be a chance of sorting out what they are?!
If I had to guess, my thoughts would be Brandywine for the big, potato-leaved toms, and San Marzano for the plum looking ones.
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Old 28-07-2008, 11:54 AM
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Good game this!

I can't tell you what they are, but I can tell you what they're not!

The round ones are stripey, so you can forget Marmande, Beefsteak and Brandywine. They do look a lot like they might be Vintage Wine as suggested above.

The plum type are definitely not san marzano, which have a rather rectangular appearance. Maybe Roma, if they go red.

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Old 30-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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Anyone fancy a go at identifying my tomatoes too?
Should be easier as they are either Ferline or Sungella, but no idea which is which and how many of each I've got!
I THINK I can spot the different ones because some have a very large number of flowers per 'vine' all clustered together and some have only say, 6 in a really regular pattern.
The flowers look slightly different too.

Any offers?

Tomato 1 (with clustersof toms):
tomatoes
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Tomato 2 (with regularly spread toms):
Tomatoes
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Old 30-07-2008, 11:24 PM
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Rodofgod76, your first pic. looks like 'Mr Stripey' an heirloom potato leaved type tomato. Here's a link to a pic. (scan down the list to them)
http://www.stanford.edu/~sommer/ThisYearsVarieties.html
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Old 30-07-2008, 11:31 PM
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Busylizzie, not entirely sure but I'd say the first ones were the Sungella & the second ones the Ferline.
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