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Old 13-06-2006, 12:52 AM
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For those of you who are new to this, I found a very good tip in a magazine last year (really really hope it was GYO but can't remember) that can give you extra tomato plants. Any large side shoots you pinch off your tomatoes can be put in water and planted once roots grow.

Just pinched off a couple I had missed, so got them in pots in the kitchen. I don't really need another tomato plant, but if one dies or gets diseased then at least you have another ready to take its place.

PS I'm pretty new to this as well!

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Old 13-06-2006, 08:33 AM
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Jennie,

they root that well you can just stick them into moist soil. An added bonus is that as they are the same genetic age as the main plant they fruit very quickly too.
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Old 13-06-2006, 12:13 PM
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It works - I did this last year!
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Old 13-06-2006, 01:50 PM
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my god, you didnt all plant too many seeds like me then. ive been begging people to take plants away!
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Old 14-06-2006, 01:51 PM
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I'm with you Leona... I planted WAY to many plants for my garden! I have 24 'strong' plants and aobut 10 weaker ones which are my backups.... not sure why I need backups though as I have too many good plants in the first place that I'm trying to give them to neighbours etc...!!

I had tried taking the sideshoots and just sticking them in the soil last year and it worked a treat - they really come on fast and mine produced much more fruit than I expected.

You can also train a main side shoot (e.g. along the floor and then up another stake) and this aparently gives you 50% more yield off the one tomato plant. If you train 2 side shoots up, you're supposed to get 100% more. I tried it, but one of my side shoots broke when it got big, and the other one definitely produced fruit - just not sure it was worth the hassle trying not to break it!

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Old 14-06-2006, 02:05 PM
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i went to my local allotments and gave them about 40 plants last week. they sell them off for 40p a pop and i got empty pots back which suited me fine! ive kept 8 for my self.i only really want 4 but i couldnt decide between plants so kept too many. ive got 12 in the greenhouse as a friend of mine is having 4 so im looking after them. i took a side shoot off yesterday to have a go and its wilted so im thinking its too small. i dont give them a chance normally because last year i left them all and they drove me mad, ive been pinching them out as soon as they show their heads
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Old 15-06-2006, 02:01 PM
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Like you Slug I tried training a side shoot last year, but found that despite all the time and effort it broke off!

I too also grow far too much, but you never know whether it is going to take or not. I sowed all my cabbages and cauliflowers and for some reason only have five plants of each that have survived the two leaf stage! I don't mind too many tomatoes though as (I think) they are the easiest fruit/veg to use over the winter months as they cook down into a lovely sauce which freezes well. Green ones make good chutney too. So in my book toms are the best thing I grow.

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Old 15-06-2006, 10:11 PM
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Took some shideshoots off my tomatoes because I wanted to try growing them as suggested in one of the threads. Didn't have time to sort them then, so popped them into some water. Well came back to them today - must be a good 10 days to two weeks later (ok so I forgot about them! ) and they were all doing just fine and had sprouted loads of roots! Have since planted them so will see how they go!
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Old 16-06-2006, 12:01 AM
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I have heard this...unfortunately I already have about 60 or 70 plants!!! Far too many
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Old 16-06-2006, 09:15 AM
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how big do the side shoots have to get & do you just nip them out as usual or do you use a knife to get a clean edge??
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If I want any more Sunbeam, I just pick ones that are 3-4 inches tall and pinch them out and stick them in the compost. Obviously you can cut them off if you wish but I have never bothered as they strike so readilly.
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Old 17-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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Gryfon - what are you doing with 60-70 tomato plants - do you supply the supermarkets? surely they're not all for you own consumption! Wow!
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Old 17-06-2006, 08:49 PM
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I thought I was bad with 48! I have given,son daughter and mom 6 plants each though so at least I'm keeping the family suplied.
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Old 17-06-2006, 10:00 PM
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I have 48 plants of which there are 22 different varieties. Half are in the greenhouse and half are outside. I want next year to only grow for taste combined with performance so need to know which do better where. Next year I want some more space in the greenhouse for a few more types of vegetables.
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Old 17-06-2006, 10:50 PM
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You guys must have enourmous plots to accomodate so many tomatoes as well as all the other veg you grow. I've crammed 6 toms into the greenhouse adn they have to fight for space with the 2 cucumber and 3 sugarbaby melons. Then I've got 4 toms outside as well as all my tumbling ones in hanging troughs.

I've got no room in my plot for anything anymore and just pulled up a load of mange tout that the birds had nibbled to death as I didn't think I was going to get anything from them. Very tempted to pull up my peas too as the same has happened to them and I've just planted more pea seeds in the greenhouse to plant later on...not sure it's worth it though.
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Old 18-06-2006, 02:43 AM
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just pulled up a load of mange tout that the birds had nibbled to death as I didn't think I was going to get anything from them. Very tempted to pull up my peas too as the same has happened to them and I've just planted more pea seeds in the greenhouse to plant later on...not sure it's worth it though.
This is where Cats come into their own fruit bushes untouched. Peas and other greens as good as the day they went in. There are two cats that think our house is theirs. Neither cat was ours from kittens. Both seemed to move in with their shopping trolleys and guard the garden like tigers from all comers.
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Old 18-06-2006, 11:27 AM
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Well I'm not quite sure what to do with them to be honest! Forgot when I sowed them that most would germinate and I'm terrible for not thinning and throwing!!!

Going to set up a hedge veg stall and sell them for 50p a plant!

Now if I did have a huge greenhouse I'd quite happily plant them all!!!
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Old 18-06-2006, 07:22 PM
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Hi All,

Do you need to remove the side shoots from aubergines, peppers & chillies also? If so can you make new plants by planting the removed shoots as with tomatoes?
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Old 18-06-2006, 08:37 PM
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No, you dont need to sideshoot any of the above(at least never had to on any type I've ever grown!).Just let them grow to a height you want,then pinch out growing tip.This will then encourage them to bush out.I usually do this when my plants get to about 2ft to 2 1/2ft high.Hope this helps.Other people might have different suggestions.
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Old 25-06-2006, 07:44 PM
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I'm a litle unsure about pinching out. I know about the secondary shoot at the junction of the main stem and side shoot, but have seen pictures of cordon tomatoes with basically one almost bare main stem with bunches of fruit hanging from it and just a few leaves at the top.
My growbags look like miniature rainforests the foliage is so dense. Am I missing out on something , should I be removing some of the lower "branches"/ I'd have thought all the leaves were needed for photosynthesis.
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Old 25-06-2006, 09:43 PM
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i left all the side shoots last year and they practically took over my whole house never mind the greenhouse. sideshoots come off as soon as they appear. despite saying i had far too many tomato plants, come to my house and you will find no less than 6 side shoots planted up. why do i do this to myself!
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Old 25-06-2006, 09:48 PM
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this thread may help Little Dig

http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gra...3&postcount=29
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I hate to go against the grain, but... last year I didn't pinch mine out (didn't have a clue how to) and I didn't have any problems.
Saying that, I only grow mine to make pasta sauces so there may have been differencesw if I was growing them for salads.....

Had a massive crop from just 4 plants.
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Old 26-06-2006, 12:00 PM
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i had no problems with my toms from not pinching them out, the only problem was that they got huge and having all of those leaves shading the fruit will have prevented some from ripening. also,in order to ripen the last of the toms, i had to strip the plants of all the leaves and it took ages
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