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Old 03-01-2007, 11:41 AM
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Rather than just growing on the flat on my allotment, I have installled 8 archways over paths between raised beds to make best use of space. Paths are necessary but unproductive and its space I intend to fully utilise.

As they are to be fully utilised I intend to grow the following up them.

Some of Don Vincenzo's cuccuzze

Cobra climbing beans laced with gardeners delight tomato

Cucumbers

A "Gertrude Jeykl" climbing rose


Any further suggestions anyone?
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Borlotti beans and my favourite Blue Lake french bean.
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Buttercup Squash - my favourite smooth, dense, sweet Winter Squash, with small to medium sized fruits that won't whump down and do you a mischief

Borlotti seconded, or those big fat white Greek beans - I grew them last year from seed bought at a Greek supermarket, they cropped heavily and are delicious!
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Borlotti are good but I grow them really close in a raised bed to give me plenty for the winter.

The squash sound good, very visual as well. Will I need some of Lj's bras to hang them in?
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Hammocks are optional

If you'd like the squash or giant white bean seeds piglet, I have more than I need - pm if interested!
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Its a good idea Piglet!

You could try a climbing fig or the good old grapevine!

I might have to try this idea once my garden is on its way

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I do have a grape vine spare, I bought 3 in France and will have two in the tunnels and the third can indeed go up one of the arches. Good shout Ilex
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Zepherine Droughin or Kathleen Harrop both thornles roses with V.Good Scent.

Sweet peas (but not Snadgers Strain)
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No I agree Nick, Red and White sweet peas wouldnt go
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thanks piglet great idea
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A word of warning - the climbing rose Zepherine just does not stop - the gardener at the castle I worked at for a year or so had one that grew up into a Horse Chetnut then jumped across a divide and snaked up the downpipe on the castles gable end - we wrapped it in polythene to protect it when we were repointing the lime mortar - 13 scaffolding lifts high !!
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I will stick with either Constance spry or Gertrude Geykel Rat, crickey a day of the trifids plant.
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Hi Piggie !

Great that you're implementing my innovative idea to the max.
Butternuts won't grow tall enough to cover the arch, but certainly Sungold and Gardeners Delight Tomatoes did for me in 2006 Summer, and prior to that, Sweet Dumpling Squashes are 'well-behaved' enough in the 'tidy department' to cover the majority of height those arches give you.

Honoured that you're thinking of using my old 'bras for squash hammocks' idea too........ I've got a lacy little red'un going spare if you need it.
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Its Mine Wellie, save it for our next visit and I will collect it then, just need to get one Of Lj and thats both sweet dumpling and atlantic giant covered.

I am bagging the best of your ideas along with the best of these guys ideas, although Nick has suggested I grow a castle eating rose which isnt so good.

Good to see you both on here, chin chin to trousers
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A word of warning - the climbing rose Zepherine just does not stop - the gardener at the castle I worked at for a year or so had one that grew up into a Horse Chetnut then jumped across a divide and snaked up the downpipe on the castles gable end - we wrapped it in polythene to protect it when we were repointing the lime mortar - 13 scaffolding lifts high !!
I think I'll try one of those!
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Zepherine Droughin or Kathleen Harrop both thornles roses with V.Good Scent.

Sweet peas (but not Snadgers Strain)
We agree on the Zepherine Droughin It's the only rose I possess and has a wonderful 'Oldie worlde' scent!
The sweet peas are still pegging along, so they may be biennial sweet peas!
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PS If they turn out red and white I'll torch the shed they're growing up!
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A word of warning - the climbing rose Zepherine just does not stop - the gardener at the castle I worked at for a year or so had one that grew up into a Horse Chetnut then jumped across a divide and snaked up the downpipe on the castles gable end - we wrapped it in polythene to protect it when we were repointing the lime mortar - 13 scaffolding lifts high !!
Mine isn't Rat. Your not confusing it with Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector (i bought one of these for our Vicar ) are you?
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Fantastic space saving idea!
Wonder whether they can be constructed out of all pallets!!
I know I keep going on about pallets but they have saved us an arm and a leg so far!!
Useful iI hear you say !! It wouldn't be easy to work otherwise!!
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I have a Zepherin Drouhin,Rat. I find it no bother to keep confined to below windowsill height. It's pink, thornless, beautifully scented and best of all - does well on a north facing wall. I think your old boss got the varieties mixed up. To grow like that it would have to be Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector I think.
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Or maybe Paul's Himalayan Musk?

PW, The golden hop looks good- no fruit though, I think. By the way, talking of old-fashioned roses, I have on very good authority that there are three of the David Austin roses that shouldn't be missed (they do well up here, which is saying something). They are William Shakespeare, Golden Celebrations, and Falstaff. All three have especially good disease resistance, and Falstaff can be grown as a short climber- it has excellent scent too, apparently. Trouble with the otherwise wonderful Zephyrin Drouhin, like almost all the Bourbons, is its susceptibility to black spot and mildew.
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