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  • Sun Baby & Totem Tomatoes - Help please!

    Hi there,

    New to the site but your forum looked like a lot of knowledgeable people come on so I thought I'd ask for your help please.

    Have grown veg a few times over the years in various ways - full veg plot, allotment, and tubs -but stopped a few years ago due to various physical restraints. However, this year now our purely ornamental garden is mature, we thought we'd grow a variety of veg in planters and pots on the patio. We're pretty straight with most of the veg - sugar snap, sturon, potatoes, runner beans, courgette.

    We have though bought three cherry type tomatoes. The Tumbler is not a problem, grew them a few years ago so they're fine. But we have one Sun Baby and one Totem and I've been looking everywhere for the growth habit and either can't find them or get contradictory information.

    The only thing I know from the ident card is that Totem requires staking. Does this mean it's a tall variety (indeterminate/cordon) which should be pinched out please? I have found differing sites with one saying yes and one saying no! One picture I've seen makes it look like a Tumbler but also says its a cordon, aaarrrggh!

    Similaraly the Sun Baby. I've found loads of sites telling me how good the fruit is but little about how to grow it. We were under the impression it was a good patio grower but it's racing ahead of the other two in height. It does not say on the ident card requires staking but the impression I'm getting is that it (almost) definitely is an indeterminate/cordon with it's eventual height being quoted as well over a metre if not a metre and a half!

    Please would anyone with experience of either of these give me the benefit of their wisdom?

    By the way I did see the some old posts on here regarding the Totem being tasteless so with all the stress around how to grow it I'm almost tempted not to bother with it!

    Any help and advice will be very gratefully recieved.

    Thanks in advance,
    Spigs

  • #2
    Just found this site, seems to have everything there
    http://http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/55340/
    Last edited by COMPOST CORNER; 09-05-2010, 06:57 PM.

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    • #3
      I thought Totem were meant to be a 'bush' variety that is slightly trailing and slightly upright - sort of halfway between the two? Might need a short cane to keep it supported.

      sorry that probably doesnt help at all!

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      • #4
        Yup there with you, I grew Totem last year and they are a small bush tom (got mine from T amd M) that does better from 1 short stake, it says on the packet a dwarf stocky bush type ! ideal for pots and window boxes , apparently , grew mine in a 16 inch hangin basket last year, did okay too !

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        • #5
          Sorry forgot to say, it says "this variety requires no side shooting"

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          • #6
            I grew sunbaby last year and am growing it again this year. It is a cordon, mine grew very quickly too and was soon up at the greenhouse roof. I nipped out the side shoots and the plant produced loads of lovely yellow fruit. good luck

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            • #7
              Thank you all so much for your advice.

              So, the Totem is going to get a short but stout stake to support its central stem and sit in a relatively tall patio pot. Although a hanging basket sounds good too but I was contemplating my Tumbler in there and not many places to put a basket. Hmmm, will need to think on it.

              By the way beaufontboy, what was the flavour like of the Totem last year?

              The Sun Baby is going to go in a similar large pot in a very sheltered but sunny part of the patio with a tall stout stake and I'll remove the side shoots. Really looking forward to the lovely fruits I've been reading about now.

              Once again, my profuse thanks for answering my query, I was starting to despair!

              All the very best,
              Spigs

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              • #8
                I'm glad this came up. I have around 40 sun baby seedlings! looks like I will have to raid the bamboo clump for canes, I thought they would be a dwarf variety
                Eat well, live well, drink moderately and be happy (hic!)

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                • #9
                  I'm glad my quandry helped you too ohbeary!

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                  • #10
                    I too thought that Totem was a dwarf variety for pots etc. Think that I have grown it in the past and kept in in pots on the window ledge in early season. If it was that variety then it was lovely and sweet but not really suited to a hanging basket.

                    Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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