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    Saraheliz is offline Seedling
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    this is my first year of my allotment and have grown peas, potatoes, summer and winter cabbages, swedes onions garlic carrots and sweetcorn.

    Have sown spring cabbages but where do I put them when they are ready? Regarding crop rotation do I put them still with the brassicas this year i.e. where summer cabbages were or do I start them where peas were and follow them next year with summer cabbages. Am a bit confused. Grateful of any help

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    Mine tend to go anywhere there's a space. Having said that, the b******* caterpillars have decimated all my brassicas this year so there's very little to plant out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraheliz View Post
    Hi

    this is my first year of my allotment and have grown peas, potatoes, summer and winter cabbages, swedes onions garlic carrots and sweetcorn.

    Have sown spring cabbages but where do I put them when they are ready? Regarding crop rotation do I put them still with the brassicas this year i.e. where summer cabbages were or do I start them where peas were and follow them next year with summer cabbages. Am a bit confused. Grateful of any help

    Sarah
    Either: but stick with the same method next year.

    If you have had any club root problems, I'd move somewhere else.
    If you haven't any, then you can use the same place and put the next crop in there in the spring.....but as you've cleared the peas it makes sense to me to put them there. Then follow with the next batch in the spring.

    Me: they go anywhere there is a space and if i get any club root problems, I'll avoid that bed for a good few years.
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    thats great advice from you both, I think I will have to sort it out on paper, I find the crop rotation thing quite complicated fitting in sweetcorn and potatoes but cheers,
    sorry to hear that rustylady I have had all my lettuce eaten and pigeons pecked my spring cabbage

    thanks!

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    Mine are going in one of next year's brassicas beds, in this case where I've just pulled some onions.

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    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraheliz View Post
    thats great advice from you both, I think I will have to sort it out on paper, I find the crop rotation thing quite complicated fitting in sweetcorn and potatoes but cheers,
    sorry to hear that rustylady I have had all my lettuce eaten and pigeons pecked my spring cabbage

    thanks!
    You have to decide in your own mind whether you want to use true CROP rotation (not following like with like) or Annual ground rotation (growing the same type of crop for 12 months at a time)...............there is a difference!

    I use true crop rotation wherever I can, i.e brassicas following Legumes etc etc but mainly I just rely on NOT following like with like, as it's less complicated!
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    It's good advice not to follow like with like as it's hard to practice true rotation in a small patch. This year my spuds went where last years cabbages were and next year I'll put leeks and onions in that spot. All you have to remember is what was in there the previous year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solway cropper View Post
    It's good advice not to follow like with like as it's hard to practice true rotation in a small patch. This year my spuds went where last years cabbages were and next year I'll put leeks and onions in that spot. All you have to remember is what was in there the previous year.
    You don't have to wait a year to put stuff in, my empty areas get filled with something else a week or two later, sometimes the next day.


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