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  • Pigeon Manure???? Good idea or Bad?

    Hiya.
    Been asked by my brother in law if i could use the manure his very many racing pigeons generate.
    Done a little research but found very conflicting evidence, for example "dont use it it will kill you!!!" and "in medieval times dovecotes had armed guards as the pigeon manure was like gold dust".
    Sooooooo i bit confused.
    Your thoughts please . Cheers Minty
    " If it tastes like chicken THEN EAT CHICKEN " :- Kermit The Frog


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  • #2
    Others may disagree, but I can't see it being that different from chicken poo. Although I would put it in your compost bin and let it rot down before using it

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    • #3
      Its brilliant stuff for the veg patch, especially if its old. Use as you would chicken pellets as a high nitrogen feed.
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      to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

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      • #4
        There was some talk about pigeon fanciers getting some lung disease but I think that was down to the pigeons themselves. The other thing to bear in mind is that as far as I know racing pigeons don't stop to dine on the way home so you got a very good idea as to what they have been fed.

        Colin
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Potstubsdustbins View Post
          There was some talk about pigeon fanciers getting some lung disease but I think that was down to the pigeons themselves.
          It is also called bird fanciers's lung and is caused by inhaling dry dust particles in the air from droppings/feathers etc - it is from the bird itself, although not just pigeons, poultry and budgies can cause it. It's amazing how much dust can be in the air when you keep several birds in a shed. I don't think you would get it from bagged up poop.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
            It is also called bird fanciers's lung and is caused by inhaling dry dust particles in the air from droppings/feathers etc - it is from the bird itself, although not just pigeons, poultry and budgies can cause it. It's amazing how much dust can be in the air when you keep several birds in a shed. I don't think you would get it from bagged up poop.
            Yep that was my thinking to. Reckon it should not only be safe but has pointed out already a bit of good stuff.

            Colin
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            • #7
              The brief consensus from previous posts I have read would be to use old (2years plus) direct on soil otherwise incorporate it into compost heaps as an accelerator
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Minty View Post
                found very conflicting evidence, for example "dont use it it will kill you!!!"
                Pigeons crap everywhere, all the time: down buildings, on cars. We aren't dying in huge quantities from it.
                Having said that, it's not a pleasant job dealing with inches & inches of dirty poop. What are they bedded on? Sawdust or newspaper?
                I have the parrots (and guinea pigs) on newspaper, and it's no bother to parcel up the sheets with all the poop every other day or so. It's a lot of poop: it goes on the compost heap with everything else


                Originally posted by Scarlet View Post
                bird fanciers's lung and is caused by inhaling dry dust particles in the air from droppings/feathers etc
                African Greys are particularly dusty birds and aren't recommended pets for asthmatics. You keep the dust down by regularly bathing/spraying your birds
                Last edited by Two_Sheds; 23-01-2012, 06:28 PM. Reason: apostrophe police
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                  African Grey's are particularly dusty birds and aren't recommended pets for asthmatics. You keep the dust down by regularly bathing/spraying your birds
                  Thats scuppered my plan for a lovely bird in doors as my husband is asthmatic. I often rear chicks (chickens/turkeys) and during the early days when they are feathering up the dust is unbelievable. My grand father used to breed budgies so I knew they were the same, I didn't realise you would notice the dust with just one bird.

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                  • #10
                    Some parrots are dustier than others, it's worth doing some research. Mine is really very dusty (dander) and I have to wipe layers of dust off everything every day. She gets bathed once a week, but still. If you don't bathe them at all, they can get really itchy skin and start to feather-pluck

                    My conure doesn't produce any dander at all that I notice (though he does bathe A LOT, in his drink cup
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                    • #11
                      That birds got a far better sense of rhythm than me thats for sure.LOL


                      Colin
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                      • #12
                        TS_ I am seriously jealous, I could watch those for hours. Off to investigate...

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                        • #13
                          Being on a site surrounded by pigeon folk i havent bought any manure for 10 years and it a good idea. If its dry i sprinkle it around my alliums throughout the year, around fruit in spring and around any brassicas which overwinter and it the best compost accelerator itll take a bin down in 6 months i can get three big bins a year. This year i am experimenting using it for hot beds.
                          Last edited by bravo2zero; 23-01-2012, 08:35 PM.

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                          • #14
                            I would use it as chicken dung, so compost first with plenty of straw or similar. A hot bed sounds like a fantastic idea.

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                            • #15
                              thanks for all the helpful replies,
                              Cheers Minty
                              " If it tastes like chicken THEN EAT CHICKEN " :- Kermit The Frog


                              http://mohicans-allotment.blogspot.com/

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