Onions,Potatoes,Garlic and shallots

**rustylady** · 22-08-2013, 03:15 PM

Whereabouts are you Julian?

Potatoes can allegedly be grown for Christmas, but to be honest on an allotment in the UK is not really feasible. They will be killed by frost so would be better grown in large buckets at home and moved into a greenhouse when the weather gets colder.

Onions, garlic and shallots can all be grown from sets planted late Autumn and harvested the following June / July.

**julian91** · 22-08-2013, 03:19 PM

fruit bushes

hi all

Been too my local garden centre today and bought five different fruit bushs all in 3L pot Raspberries,red,white and black currents these seems to have fruit on them which don't seem too bother me too much but i'm guessing will have too harvest soon. Gooseberries is a mix packed red,yellow and green, I was wondering if i can split these when it come to planting? any advice on that would be appreciated as i really don't won't them all together!!!Also the raspberries is a five cane plant but they seem to have died and new grown as formed do I treat these as they where in the ground as none these bushes are in the ground yet. any help would be much appreciated kind regards jules

**julian91** · 22-08-2013, 03:33 PM

Hi thanks for getting back, Norwich.

Thats very helpful , as this is my first year and I keep seeing start growing your christmas spuds but just abit confused as frost etc had loverly first crop of earlies and just little confused on winter potatoes.
ooo i'll be shopping for my Autumn sets instead then but I take theirs cons about growing these in the winter months as of rot etc? is it wise too just start next on the onions? or just have a go and hope for the best! :-)

**julian91** · 22-08-2013, 03:36 PM

all so just wondering if you could help with this

hi

Been too my local garden centre today and bought five different fruit bushs all in 3L pot Raspberries,red,white and black currents these seems to have fruit on them which don't seem too bother me too much but i'm guessing will have too harvest soon. Gooseberries is a mix packed red,yellow and green, I was wondering if i can split these when it come to planting? any advice on that would be appreciated as i really don't won't them all together!!!Also the raspberries is a five cane plant but they seem to have died and new grown as formed do I treat these as they where in the ground as none these bushes are in the ground yet. any help would be much appreciated kind regards jules

**Creemteez** · 22-08-2013, 03:38 PM

Hi Jules. Sorry, I'm a bit confused. I take it each different bush is in it's own 3ltr pot? The currant bushes can be planted into well dug ground which has had lots of organic matter added to it and watered well untill established leaving a good meter between them as they get quite large. The Raspberries should be separated into either individual canes or clumps. Do you know if the are autumn or summer fruiting ones as their treatment is quite different. I don't understand about the Gooseberries. Do you have three different plants? If so, they should be separated and planted in the same way as your currant bushes.

**rustylady** · 22-08-2013, 03:43 PM

First of all Julian, can you add your location (Norwich) to your profile please then it will show on your posts. You're not that far from me, and I grow garlic and onions from Autumn planted sets. No problems with rot or frost. They get started growing and then sit there for the really cold months and start growing again when the weather warms up.

As to your fruit bushes, are they all in pots?

If so plant them as soon as you have a suitable spot for them. Bear in mind that they will grow into quite large bushes.

Do you have any variety names for the raspberries and gooseberries?

**julian91** · 22-08-2013, 04:18 PM

I think it's showing my location now? yes all in 3litre pots

gooseberries have 3 bushes in the pot yellow,green and red all hinnoonmaki and can i split these when it come too the dormant season?
Raspberrie are octavia which have started to have new shots and the 5 canesd are dead will i need to cut these or wait until planting them. these will all be going down the allotment in October 2013

**WendyC** · 22-08-2013, 05:21 PM

You 've asked the same question in two different places so following advice might be tricky. On your other thread you said you aren't going to plant til October. Can I ask why and if that is the case why buy them now, unless they were in a sale?

**Kirk** · 22-08-2013, 06:30 PM

Octavia is a summer fruiting raspberry.
The dead cane can be cut out.
Do not cut the new shoots.
The new shoots will grow into canes next year (2014) - but they will not bear fruit.
Another set of new shoots will appear end of next year (2014).
The following year(2015) the canes that grew during 2014 will bear fruit (2015).
The new shoots from 2014 will now be canes (2015) and will bear fruit in 2016.
At the end of 2015 you can cut out the canes that fruited.

Summer raspberries bear fruit on "old" wood and first year growth will have none (or very very little).

Not as difficult to do as the explanation for how to managed them. But Autumn fruiting raspberries are a lot easier, even if the yield is lower.

Raspberries will spread, and rapidly. New ones will spring up quite happily 4 and 5 feet away.

The gooseberries, would split into 3 when it is appropriate. Think these fruit on old wood so again the first year really is a case of letting them grow to form branches for producing fruit the following years.

Just in case you think it a good idea do not buy Autumn fruiting raspberries as well as the summer ones. If they mix you will not know easily which to cut and which to leave.

**julian91** · 23-08-2013, 07:50 AM

Hi thanks ever so much Kirk, that really helped!

**julian91** · 23-08-2013, 07:58 AM

Hi yes someone has answered my quarry about raspberries and gooseberries in the other thread in vegging out. I only post it twice as yesterday I did not get response and yes I did get them in the sale as I will not be getting my plot until October.
Thanks again jules

**julian91** · 23-08-2013, 08:05 AM

The raspberries are summer fruiting and the gooseberries are in one 3L pot with three different variety red, green and yellow is a mix pack. I'm guessing will need too split when weather get a bit colder? (Dormant) all currents are in the separate pots each.

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