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    what i dont get with moon planting is how the time you plant according to the moon can effect the rest of the plants life.

    i understand that the seedlings may take up more water during that week or so but what does 1 day difference make?

    please can someone explain?
    Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record of dead religions.

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    Originally posted by cwipnip View Post
    what i dont get with moon planting is how the time you plant according to the moon can effect the rest of the plants life.

    i understand that the seedlings may take up more water during that week or so but what does 1 day difference make?

    please can someone explain?
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    Updated 23rd February 2009

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    • #3
      It is even better than that, there are some days on which you shouldn't garden at all after a certain time! (depending on which system you are using).
      Do a search, there is quite a bit on here about it.
      Tx

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      • #4
        Originally posted by cwipnip View Post
        what i dont get with moon planting is how the time you plant according to the moon can effect the rest of the plants life.

        i understand that the seedlings may take up more water during that week or so but what does 1 day difference make?

        please can someone explain?
        I'm not entirely sure, but it seems to affect the plant in good way - I'm trying out moon planting this year.

        This book was recommended by another grape on another thread:
        Gardening and Planting by the Moon 2009
        by
        Nick Kollerstrom

        I bought it from Amazon on the grape's recommendation and I think it's a great buy.
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        • #5
          Try reading the bottom of this page and see if it explains stuff for you.

          Moon Planting Guide

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          • #6
            Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
            Try reading the bottom of this page and see if it explains stuff for you.

            Moon Planting Guide
            that link doesnt really explain any of the science about it, im very into science and a can't concieve how 1 days difference in sowing can have an adverse affect on crops a) because if i planted today at 11pm then planted in the morning at 1am how can that have a difference and b) you can have 1 seed germinate today but the next one might germinater a few days later.

            unless i see solid results (will i will be testing myself) and i get a reasonable explaination for me it seems like abit of hocus pocus
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            • #7
              Well, my solid results are looking good so far.

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              • #8
                You know something cwipnip? I am RIGHT there with you. It IS difficult to understand, I know that.

                And the way that I made myself finally understand how it all worked was this:

                Think of yourself as a Leaf Plant. I don't know..... A Spinach Leaf, let's say!

                Someone like yourself opens a packet of Spinach Leaf Seed, and sows a bit of you on a Flower Day, a bit of you on a Fruit Day, a bit of you on a Root Day, and finally, a bit of you on a Leaf Day, according to the Moon Planting Calendar.
                For now.... ignore the actual Calendar, until you're comfortable with the basics.

                Potentially, all of those Spinach seeds will germinate, given the right light/air/warmth kind of stuff.
                BUT. Consider this. With the potential for all of those seeds, with the right 'stuff' to germinate, the Spinach Leaf seed sown on any of the Flower/Fruit/Root Days does kind of OKAY. But sown on a LEAF day, transplanted and tended on a LEAF day.... the bed hoed on a LEAF day, etc. etc..... Every action of care towards that plant is going to instill into it that it is most definitely LEAF material. And therefore, it becomes magnificent in every way. A truly healthy Leaf.
                Yes. There IS more to it, and it's a growing 'culture', a step beyond Organic, and it isn't a quick fix.
                I know it SOUNDS sh!te, but if I could take myself on my own learning curve back to where I first got interested in growing my own food, I would have no hesitation now in growing on a BioDynamic basis, and planting in accordance with the moon.
                If you're interested now, I'd say you'll be hooked in a while, and well you should be!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cwipnip View Post
                  that link doesnt really explain any of the science about it, im very into science and a can't concieve how 1 days difference in sowing can have an adverse affect on crops a) because if i planted today at 11pm then planted in the morning at 1am how can that have a difference and b) you can have 1 seed germinate today but the next one might germinater a few days later.

                  unless i see solid results (will i will be testing myself) and i get a reasonable explaination for me it seems like abit of hocus pocus
                  how about a little bit of theoretical science?

                  moon phases effect the tides, the tides effect the ground water level ( at least in coastal areas, maybe all over?), and gravity, now you could see how more or less available water could effect root growth? maybe gravity effects growth too?
                  maybe reflected sunlight from the moon does too, making more light available.

                  how it effects types of plants is another thing, but synodic moon planting ( that's the one without zodiac signs) has been going on for centuries, and the results have been accepted by the generations using it, that's a pretty long field trial , some people don't trust the use of herbs for medicine, but again, they have been tested by generations of people.

                  now i am not saying that you can cure measles by taking sage at 3am on a tuesday when the moon is in aquarius, but.............. peppermint is very good for digestion, lavender calms, and aids sleep, and rosemary re-vitalises.

                  there has to be something in moon planting for people to have used it for so long, because lets face it, if you are facing starvation if your crops don't grow, you a'int gonna mess with a system that hasn't proved itself to work on some level.
                  Vive Le Revolution!!!
                  'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?'
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                  • #10
                    Ok try this. Its my translation just using Physics logic.

                    If the moon is full and therefore high in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon acts to pull the water in the plant upwards (Or should we say it reduces the affect of the earths gravity making it slightly easier).
                    This should mean that when the moon is full, it helps the plant pull nutrients out of the soil. This also means that the plant may find it harder to get its roots down, as its fighting against the gravity of the moon.

                    Therefore when the moon is New and therefore lowest in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon is at its lowest, meaning the plant finds it easier to get its roots down, but harder to get nutrients out of the soil.

                    Does that make sense?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Banana View Post
                      Ok try this. Its my translation just using Physics logic.

                      If the moon is full and therefore high in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon acts to pull the water in the plant upwards (Or should we say it reduces the affect of the earths gravity making it slightly easier).
                      This should mean that when the moon is full, it helps the plant pull nutrients out of the soil. This also means that the plant may find it harder to get its roots down, as its fighting against the gravity of the moon.

                      Therefore when the moon is New and therefore lowest in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon is at its lowest, meaning the plant finds it easier to get its roots down, but harder to get nutrients out of the soil.

                      Does that make sense?
                      does to me, i would certainly say that there is at least some science involved in the Synodic system.
                      Vive Le Revolution!!!
                      'Lets just stick it in, and see what happens?'
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                      • #12
                        I was reading an article by Toby Buckland the other week & he tried moon planting for various crops.He came to the conclusion that it worked very well for some but made no difference to others, I think the ones he said had good results included parsley, peas, lettuce leaves & maybe a couple of others. He did a very basic explanation similar to Bananas about the height of the moon, whether it was waxing or waning & the gravitational pull.It's very interesting but I'm hopeless at doing things at the right time & think you'd have to be fairly well organised to stick to it all.
                        Into every life a little rain must fall.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SueA View Post
                          I was reading an article by Toby Buckland the other week & he tried moon planting for various crops.He came to the conclusion that it worked very well for some but made no difference to others, I think the ones he said had good results included parsley, peas, lettuce leaves & maybe a couple of others. He did a very basic explanation similar to Bananas about the height of the moon, whether it was waxing or waning & the gravitational pull.It's very interesting but I'm hopeless at doing things at the right time & think you'd have to be fairly well organised to stick to it all.
                          Yes, I read that article too and then went out and bought the book he used "In tune with the moon - michael gros". Really interesting except the only thing is that that book is based on biodynamic moon planting which uses astrological signs as well as what the moon is doing! Bride and Zazen as far as I am aware go by Synopic moon planting which is based on what and where the moon is - in my opinion probably alot more straight forward! Consequently, the dates for planting differ tremendously from one to another!! (I hope I have got that right or else just ignore me)

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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Banana View Post
                              Ok try this. Its my translation just using Physics logic.

                              If the moon is full and therefore high in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon acts to pull the water in the plant upwards (Or should we say it reduces the affect of the earths gravity making it slightly easier).
                              This should mean that when the moon is full, it helps the plant pull nutrients out of the soil. This also means that the plant may find it harder to get its roots down, as its fighting against the gravity of the moon.

                              Therefore when the moon is New and therefore lowest in the sky, the affect of gravity from the Moon is at its lowest, meaning the plant finds it easier to get its roots down, but harder to get nutrients out of the soil.

                              Does that make sense?


                              that does make sense but for example today after 7pm is supposedly a good time to plant the tomatoes for the early tomato experiment, but if i plant now at 4pm what difference would it make? A. the seeds don't germinate at exactly the same time and to quote something (not sure what) "what difference does a day (or hour) make?
                              Religions die when they are proved to be true. Science is the record of dead religions.

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