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Thread: Fruit/Veg Breeding, Landrace - Fool's Errand?

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    Default Fruit/Veg Breeding, Landrace - Fool's Errand?

    I want to start curcubit or squash breeding, someone on here must have some experience breeding and could share their tips? I already self collect isolated seeds. I want to do the opposite and deliberately mix varieties to see what I'll end up with.

    Research led me to landrace. Basically you plant stuff, DON'T isolate. When you get all kinds of crazy things you select whatever characteristics you want to breed for. But it's survival of the fittest, so what u end up with eventually is genetically diverse and ideally suited to yr microclimate.
    This means you CAN breed F1s as long as they aren't male sterile which is another thing. You'll get craziness next year and maybe the year after but you should be able to keep selecting.

    I'm upset at this since I threw away my F1 melon seeds. I treated the plants harshly got just 1 melon from 4 seeds but was the sweetest thing I've ever eaten. Should have saved those to experiment with arggh!

    It's going to be a long road. Question again, does anyone have any advice/experience that could help? Is this a fool's errand?
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    You could start by reading Real Seeds advice Breed your own squash variety
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    Landrace can still be isolated in order to select without running the risk that your f2 has become something completely random due to critters and you start the whole process again. You have to inbreed for a fair few generations before you get a stable variety. Breeding squash as your first breeding program is interesting (male and female flowers and they are beast of plants) I once had pumpkins with marrow tasting flesh I think I was on f3 at that stage and gave up. (It was some time ago)

    Good luck. let us know how you get on.
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    That's what puts me off trying, when your next crop could be tasteless or worse, taste horrible! I'd need a lot of land before I could possibly waste some of it growing things that are hit and miss.

    Good luck to you if you do decide to try

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    I thought Landrace was a breed of pig....

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    Can be any animal or crop bred (naturally) to suit a local environment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelma Sanders View Post
    Can be any animal or crop bred (naturally) to suit a local environment
    Every day a school day. Thanks for the explanation TS.
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    Ideally you want to grow a lot of plants especially at F2 - F4 generations otherwise it's likely to be a lot more miss than hit.
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