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  • Clearing away. Resting the land.

    I have been clearing away spent crops today. The French bean frames have come down because the freezer is bulging at the seems an they were pretty much exhausted. The sweetcorn stalks are all laid out to dry for my autumnal bonfire along with bramble that has made its way through last years preparation . The new bare beds have been dug an weeded. It sadden me in a way because it marks the end of another years summer crops but I have a large freezer stuffed with veg for the winter months .

    There is plenty left to come, sprouts, Kale, cabbage, leeks , spring onions , carrots , parsnips an the winter squash are situ an in a couple o weeks I will be planting out the garlic bulbs again an the onion sets.

    I hold my hands up to admitting I am not a winter gardener. I have Raynard's syndrome so the circulation in my hands does not work properly in the colder months an my fingers turn white as death with no feeling even if my mind is willing.

    I appreciate that some here are plenty active in the winter months though an still have beds crammed full of goodies, but as I cleared bare a large bed today in preparation for a good mulch o horse poo an leaf mulch to lay it to sleep for winter, well it felt like the land heaved a big sigh o relief beneath my feet too .

    Clearing the land in preparation for the winter months gives us both a rest. The autumn dig buries weeds, exposes bugs to the wild life for a feed an then a mulch covering a few weeks later tucks it up for the winter and allowes the land to settle down a recover itself within the top layers. It also allows the land to settle down hard so that brassica roots have a firm base to build on if left un-disturbed until next spring.

    I appreciate fully that feeling that you might want to keep producing from every square inch o your plot over winter and it's just a waste not too but on the same hand I think the land appreciates the winter rest as much as I do so long as its tucked down to rest well . It needs time to recover an build up that vital micro biological top layer with a good mulch and to have a chance to compact an settle down an so that Brassica plants can still enjoy the firm base they love an without the constant draining of nutrients. A good mulch of compost an leaf mould is like a blanket to build on layers until you can get to the no dig stage .

    Who else thinks the land benefits from the winter rest an time to recover . Or is it just me

    Wren
    Last edited by Wren; 18-09-2011, 07:13 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Wren View Post
    Who else thinks the land benefits from the winter rest an time to recover .
    Ah, you've opened a can of worms here

    I'll agree to disagree with you and you'd better hide from Snadger
    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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    • #3
      I agree with you Wren. I do have some crops already in that will be harvested through winter (I hope) - kale, parsnips, leeks for starters. I also intend to plant overwintering onion sets and garlic, but the rest of the plot will be cleared. The bean trench will be re-dug and filled with compostable stuff over winter, ready for re-planting next year.

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      • #4
        I knew I would have to bare the wrath o Snadger. Snadger is my grow your own hero too!!! :/. That is what makes it a debate though eh.

        Wren
        Last edited by Wren; 18-09-2011, 07:02 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wren View Post
          I knew I would have to bare the wrath o Snadger

          bare as much as you like Brrr! I think I'll keep me clothes on

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          • #6
            If the land is left bare during the winter see how long Mother nature takes to re-colonise it? She wouldn't allow it to have a winter rest to recover........Mother nature knows best..............

            Of course this has to be tempered with the amount of enjoyment you get from your plot. No good going to your plot in winter and being miserable. We grow veg and flowers because we ENJOY it and it gives us a sense of achievement.
            I have a woodburning stove in my greenhouse and on a cold Jan/Feb day it is a pleasure to be in it, pottering about.
            Its the brown desert syndrome which allotment committees are so keen to support that I can't abide.
            A plot nicely turned over and devoid of any plant life at any time of the year is in my opinion an abomnation to the eyes.
            My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
            to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

            Diversify & prosper


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            • #7
              I do clear some beds, and have veg in others - but I sow a green manure inbetween if nothing is going in. Seems to work and some flower early and bring the bees along which is nice.

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              • #8
                So, snadger(or anyone ) - just starting out with my plot now.. clearing it as I go (it was over-grown again due to birth of 2nd child)... I was planning on manuring the beds I'm building for it. What would you sow now, seems a blank canvas. Rye seems really the only winter hardy green manure if I go that route?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chrismarks View Post
                  So, snadger(or anyone ) - just starting out with my plot now.. clearing it as I go (it was over-grown again due to birth of 2nd child)... I was planning on manuring the beds I'm building for it. What would you sow now, seems a blank canvas. Rye seems really the only winter hardy green manure if I go that route?
                  Fil lit with broad beans as well as getting a crop the plants will fixate nitrogen to their roots which will save on fertiliser and if the haulms are dug in once the beans are harvested you will also add organic matter.
                  Of course there are lots of other winter veg that can go in as well which can always be mulched with manure around them.
                  My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                  to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                  Diversify & prosper


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                  • #10
                    I have my broadies ready.. not that keen on them to be honest, but want to give over wintering a go. As above, have some garlic and paris white onions hopefully to go in too.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Snadger View Post
                      Fil lit with broad beans as well as getting a crop the plants will fixate nitrogen to their roots which will save on fertiliser and if the haulms are dug in once the beans are harvested you will also add organic matter.
                      Of course there are lots of other winter veg that can go in as well which can always be mulched with manure around them.
                      Snadger, do you sow them now or have you already got them going in pots/modules? Did they get through last winter up here? Once I have done some digging I might put some in. Which ones do you use?
                      Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are probably right.
                      Edited: for typo, thakns VC

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by singleseeder View Post
                        Snadger, do you sow them now or have you already got them going in pots/modules? Did they get through last winter up here? Once I have done some digging I might put some in. Which ones do you use?
                        No, I haven't sown mine yet. Be guided by information on packet. Aquadulce Claudia are the main ones used for overwintering.
                        Started planting some of my japanese onion sets though as land has become available. Still loads to plant though.
                        Spring cabbage are still to plant out also and i even have a smattering of leeks still to go in yet! Going to try growing my garlic indoors through the winter in flower buckets to be taken out of the greenhouse during spring this year.
                        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                        Diversify & prosper


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                        • #13
                          I try to get as much out of my small plot as I can and have stuff waiting to go into any bare patches as they appear. Giving the land a rest seems a very un-natural thing to do. As Snadge says, just see how long nature lets it stay empty!!

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                          • #14
                            I'm giving green manures a go this year for the first time. Its only on my tiny little border in the garden at home mind, but I felt persuaded by the arguments for building soil fertility and weed suppression. I sowed fenugreek and trefoil in August, I dont think fenugreek is winter hardy but I think trefoil is, and it fixes nitrogen.

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                            • #15
                              I forgot to say that I have got loads of leeks in (still tiny) and did get some Senshu (sp) onions and garlic. Onions to go in yet and I like the idea of puttin garlic in buckets in the greenhouse. Some of my 50p seed packets were 'green manure' which must go in, so I suppose my heart is in the right place, I just have to get my head there to put the plan into action.

                              Perhaps I'm not resting the land as much as I thought.
                              Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you are probably right.
                              Edited: for typo, thakns VC

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