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Old 08-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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Well I love butternut squash, so I saved some seeds from a shop bought for growing next year.
however after reading this forum it seems likely they won't come true, anyone have any idea what they might come out as?

I did a germination test anyway and am pleased with the results, of six seeds planted on the 3/10, 4 are already have shoots breaking through this morning, so thats five days!

I shall try to bring these on as far as I can and overwinter them, and then plant from the same batch in the spring, it will be interesting to see what they turn out to be.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:33 PM
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I know there is a real possibility that seed retained from garden produce may not run true unless isolated in some way with bags prior to and following hand pollination - but logic tells me that this may not be quite so varied with commercially grown stuff.

Simply because farmers are going to be growing fields of the stuff rather than an odd plant or two for family use. Therefore I'm thinking that pollination is more likely to be from a kindred plant and therefore 'truer' - but perhaps not entirely perfect to the original.

I also saved some so will be doing the same next year.
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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well i am at least pleased with the germination , that can always be a bit dodgy, and it's bound to turn out to be some sort of squash isn't it? i mean it won't turn into a tomato surely.
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That was exactly what I thought last year - it'll be a squash of some sort. They germinated really quickly and grew into beautiful plants but didn't set any fruit until very recently, so I don't think we're going to get very far now. They're butternut shape - but only a couple of inches long! I thought maybe they were originally grown somewhere warmer!
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Old 08-10-2008, 08:16 PM
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That was exactly what I thought last year - it'll be a squash of some sort. They germinated really quickly and grew into beautiful plants but didn't set any fruit until very recently, so I don't think we're going to get very far now. They're butternut shape - but only a couple of inches long! I thought maybe they were originally grown somewhere warmer!
when did you plant them?

seems they may need a pretty long season , i'll definately try to keep these ones going and overwinter them so they can go out early.
but hey, at least yours set fruit! that has to be good, and if the ripen let us know if they taste of anything nice.
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:34 PM
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I've got quite a good crop off squash seeds planted in April but I do know that they are ones which are particularly suitable for the UK in that they only need a short season. Worth a try at overwintering, however they do grow VERY big so you'll have to find somewhere with plenty of space. Might be more sucessful sowing late winter but let us know how you get on.
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I sowed them late in March and planted them out in May, they grew very quickly and were quite large plants. They went wild - growing all over the place, but they only had male flowers until about a month ago. I'll leave them and see if anything happens (pretty much my way of gardening anyway!).
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Old 08-10-2008, 09:44 PM
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I sowed them late in March and planted them out in May, they grew very quickly and were quite large plants. They went wild - growing all over the place, but they only had male flowers until about a month ago. I'll leave them and see if anything happens (pretty much my way of gardening anyway!).
well good luck with them, and let me know how they get on.
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i was tolled that with squash seeds,let the seed alone for a year,then sow it year after,then you get more female flowers,apparently it tricks the seed into thinking oh my word i had better reproduce,so hence more female,other wise as we all know,you get a lot of males showing off,hope it makes some sence to you.as regards to using seeds from supermarket ones,they are fine,my son has done this last 2 years,and got good specimens,but like has already been said,is no good saving seeds from them,this we have done,and we not like the outcome,we grow different varieties in the same patch,i am ordering new seeds for next year,
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:51 PM
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well i have plenty of seeds, so If I plant one lot this year, one next year, and in the meantime buy anoth Bsquash, that should keep it going.
although I have some F1 seeds as well for next season.
I'ts all part of the fun
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I did a germination test anyway and am pleased with the results, of six seeds planted on the 3/10, 4 are already have shoots breaking through this morning, so thats five days!

I shall try to bring these on as far as I can and overwinter them
good luck.

Squash are tender, they won't tolerate any cold at all.
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I picked my second squash yesterday but I bought them as plants but next year I am going to try from seed. I have had lots of little ones but they have rotted, yesterday I cut them back to allow as much light as possible for the remaining ones to help them ripen and possibly grow. Will just see how it goes nothing ventured nothing gained as they say.
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Well I love butternut squash, so I saved some seeds from a shop bought for growing next year.

I did a germination test anyway and am pleased with the results, of six seeds planted on the 3/10, 4 are already have shoots breaking through this morning, so thats five days!

I shall try to bring these on as far as I can and overwinter them.
You really are pushing your luck!! By all means save seeds, but don't sow them until March/April next year. They won't overwinter, they're really tender.
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You really are pushing your luck!! By all means save seeds, but don't sow them until March/April next year. They won't overwinter, they're really tender.
the seeds where only planted to test germination, as they were from a shop bought.
I shan't plant the real ones for next season until the spring.
I like to test germination of saved seeds before offering to swap, or wasting time on them myself.
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i planted ,my squash at the beginning of june, no sign of any butternuts yet, though i have had some flowers, the patty pan squash though are romping away with loads of fruits. might be a better option if we have the same kind of crappy weather next year.

I saved some galia melon seeds from a shop fruit and the ones i planted have all grown, but same again, planted too late, and only just starting to flower.

all my courgettes, pumpkins melons and squash are all in the same bed, so i'm dying to save some seeds, and see what grows next year
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All my squash plants were touched by frost last week. So thats it for this year. I was a bit late with planting them, and didnt get anything worth mentioning. So note to ones self, sow earlier.
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These are the butternuts I planted this year. I kept the seedlings (4 plants) indoors until early May then planted them out. Most of the leaves have now died back to reveal the bounty beneath & some are enormous, probably weigh more than 4 kilos & some haven't ripened yet. These butternut will keep over winter so no shortage of "butternut soup" for us!

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These are the butternuts I planted this year. I kept the seedlings (4 plants) indoors until early May then planted them out. Most of the leaves have now died back to reveal the bounty beneath & some are enormous, probably weigh more than 4 kilos & some haven't ripened yet. These butternut will keep over winter so no shortage of "butternut soup" for us!

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wow!! all that from 4 plants?
looks like i may need to dig up the lawn after all!
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Just for the record, I've had a really good crop of Golden Nugget (mini pumpkins), Mars (head size pumpkins) and Harrier butternuts (good for the weather, that is 'better than expected given all the rain & cloud we had'). I choose varieties suitable to cool weather, btw.

Sown in March, planted out in May. They took ages to get going, but I've now got about 20 fruits. So, worth doing.
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Thanks for sharing that with us Two Sheds. Looks like i'll be growing some Harrier next year then. Especially if this weather is going to be the norm for a while.
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I don't really have room for squash, and I'm not a huge fan of them to eat, but they are such fascinating plants that I grew two around my sweetcorn this year.

The foliage kept the soil well covered and definitely reduced the need for watering - we didn't have such a huge amount of rain as other areas and the soil is very light.

The sweetcorn grew well - I got the same crop as normal - and I got three medium sized squash with little effort. One plant stopped itself after one fruit, the other would have covered Britain if I had let it...

So, not a huge amount, but then it was a "bonus crop", if you like.

I tried Uchiki Kuri and Sweet Mama.
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I can dispell the myth that the plants won't set fruit from shop bought seed! In 2007 i planted some shop bought butternut seeds and the germinated, grew, rambled out of a pot and produced 4 fruits. I had two plants and let them grow until they got hit by frost and then roasted the produce.

These plants got virtually no attention and even survived a dry pot for a couple of weeks. Just remember if you're not sure try it in a pot and grow a certainty in the veg plot. In the event that both plants fruit and survive then invite some friends round for dinner - everybody wins!
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