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    Asturian Tree Cabbage - or is it?

    Several years ago I planted out some "odd" cabbagey things in part of the garden some distance away from the Assorted kale bed.
    As far as I can remember they were Asturian Tree Cabbage (ATC), Cottager's kale (CK) and Couve Tronchuda /Portuguese kale or cabbage (CT).
    One of these has survived and several babies have popped up.
    I know most of these brassicas look very similar but, since Snadger has mentioned ATC on Jay-ell's plot, I'm curious to know whether these are they!

    All opinions welcomed (even the usual, cheeky ones).

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    I've left Bess in the pic to give an idea of size - she's lying down

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    The babies.

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  • #2
    They look very similar to the kale we grow VC, be interesting to see if they flower what colour they are.
    Location ... Nottingham

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    • #3
      Put my neck on the line here but i would say 'NO' unless Welsh Asturian tree cabbage are different from Geordie Paul & Becky's Asturian tree cabbage.

      From memory the leaves seemed a more fluorescent green, but that could be due to the camera used,spose!
      My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
      to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

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      • #4
        Looking back through my posts, I sowed it April 2013 with a load of other kale type things and posted a photo of Asturian tree cabbage 9th Nov 2014.

        If I can find that photo on my old computer, I may be able to work out if its the same plant - Lots of Ifs there

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        • #5
          Doesn't look like mine. I'll take a photo next time I'm down (if I remember) which is either Thursday or Sunday.

          Mine is Becks and Paul Austurian Cabbage from real seeds. It 2 years old now but is a lighter green and has only just started to flower.

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          • #6
            Here's a stock photo from google images that shows the fluorecent-ness of the leaves on the one I spotted at Jays.

            Howay man Jay-el get your ariss into gear with a flamin piccie!
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            • #7
              5.46 & 5.48 say no more!
              My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
              to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

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              • #8
                You must have a very loud Shout, Snadge!!
                My seeds were the Paul & Becky ones too (wonder who they are?)
                There are various photos of this plant on the net, but they all look a bit different to me

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                • #9
                  Don't think it looks like my Portuguese cabbage either. Just found them again now I've chopped back the huckleberry so I'm not sure.

                  New all singing all dancing blog - Jasons Jungle

                  �I have not failed 1,000 times. I have successfully discovered 1,000 ways to NOT make a light bulb."
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                  • #10
                    My gut tells me you are never gonna find out VC................
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bigmallly View Post
                      My gut tells me you are never gonna find out VC................
                      ...........But she will find out everything they aint!
                      My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                      to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                      Diversify & prosper


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by veggiechicken View Post
                        You must have a very loud Shout, Snadge!!
                        My seeds were the Paul & Becky ones too (wonder who they are?)
                        There are various photos of this plant on the net, but they all look a bit different to me
                        A retrospective shout at that!
                        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                        Diversify & prosper


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                        • #13
                          See photos 1 to 4 and 6 for what's known here as 'berza asturiana' on this site (in Spanish):

                          Berza asturiana: información y cultivo

                          Photo 1 looks very like your seedlings, VC. But I guess a lot of these seedlings look alike.

                          On page 2, the photos in the first post in order are Asturian kale, Galician kale and old Galician kale.

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                          • #14
                            Here's my Austurian Cabbage
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                            And a couple of the Portuguese Cabbage
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                            New all singing all dancing blog - Jasons Jungle

                            �I have not failed 1,000 times. I have successfully discovered 1,000 ways to NOT make a light bulb."
                            ― Thomas A. Edison

                            �Negative results are just what I want. They�re just as valuable to me as positive results. I can never find the thing that does the job best until I find the ones that don�t.�
                            ― Thomas A. Edison

                            - I must be a Nutter,VC says so -

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