Aquedulce v. Super Aquedulce

**SarzWix** · 10-11-2008, 11:25 AM

The only broad bean I've ever tried is the Crimson Flowered which Muckdiva sent me as a swap. Most of them were grown out for seed, but Mr Wix had a few as HFW's 'broad beans on toast' and loved them, so I'm going to be trying some different ones next year. I don't think we've got the climate for over-wintering types though (very wet, windy & cold!).

**Two_Sheds** · 10-11-2008, 11:29 AM

Sarah, there's nowhere windier than my garden at the moment!
My winter broadies are fine outside (they perfectly hardy) so long as I support them with canes and string against the wind. I've never needed cloches or fleece ... indeed the one year I did cloche them, they went all lush and floppy instead of short and strong. They broke as soon as I took the cloche off.

**SarzWix** · 10-11-2008, 12:50 PM

To be honest, I think it's the wet that would finish them off! Once I've got my soil a bit more sorted, they might be okay, but it's really waterlogged at the mo, except for one bed I've added grit to & my onions and garlic are in it! Do you think they'd be ok in pots in the greenhouse over winter & plant them out in Spring?

**Two_Sheds** · 10-11-2008, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by SarzWix View Post

Do you think they'd be ok in pots in the greenhouse over winter & plant them out in Spring?

No. for the bother of keeping them alive, and having a crop only a fortnight early, you might as well do a spring sowing instead.

**flowerofshona** · 10-11-2008, 05:28 PM

If you have a windy site try 'The Sutton' its a dwarf variety but you get good crops and can sow now

Im thinking that if i grow the 'super' aquadulce this year and save teh best seed for next year they will be 'superdooper aquadulce ' :lol

**Flummery** · 10-11-2008, 05:51 PM

My 'The Sutton' blew over last year! Sticking to the crimson flowered (fabulous flavour AND jade green colour) and Red Epicure - the seeds themselves are red. Sticking to spring sowing too.

**Snadger** · 10-11-2008, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

well, I didn't think there was a difference between Aquedulce Claudia and Super Aquedulce, but ...
Super is bigger, paler and just looks beefier

(at chitted stage).

I am sowing both this autumn as a trial, and may well decide to stick with the Super in future, as last year's crop was so impressive.

I got them from here, �1.75: Beans and Herbs

The Witkiem Manita are very good too.

Can I just chalk one up for the spelling police here!

Aquadulce not aquedulce!

.............Gotcha TS!

(Now where was that thread on spelling, started by a someone called Two Sheds)

**Snadger** · 10-11-2008, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Flummery View Post

My 'The Sutton' blew over last year! Sticking to the crimson flowered (fabulous flavour AND jade green colour) and Red Epicure - the seeds themselves are red. Sticking to spring sowing too.

Red Epicure deffo do well from an autumn sowing....I can vouch for that.

I'm also trying a few of the crimson flowered sown in the autumn.

And here's me thinking you were an experimentalist Flum?

**Two_Sheds** · 10-11-2008, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by Snadger View Post

Can I just chalk one up for the spelling police here!

Aquadulce not aquedulce!

.............Gotcha TS!

(Now where was that thread on spelling, started by a someone called Two Sheds)

Happy to stand corrected ... I've seen it written both ways, to be honest. Aqua always made more sense, really. Is aquadulce Spanish for sweet water?

**Snadger** · 10-11-2008, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

Happy to stand corrected ... I've seen it written both ways, to be honest. Aqua always made more sense, really. Is aquadulce Spanish for sweet water?

Confession time...........I always thought it was aqualunce, that's why I checked!

**Rocketron** · 11-11-2008, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

Happy to stand corrected ... I've seen it written both ways, to be honest. Aqua always made more sense, really. Is aquadulce Spanish for sweet water?

It's Italian, Two_Sheds. the Spanish for water is Agua. Now I'm writing, I thought the Italian for sweet was "dolce"as in "La Dolce Vita", maybe it can be spelt both ways depending on whether the noun is masculine or feminine.
This may not be the most elucidatory post.

**Demeter** · 11-11-2008, 07:55 PM

Agua dulce is Spanish for sweet (i.e. fresh) water.
Maybe they thought they would change "agua" to "aqua" to save us from all going around pronouncing "agua" in all sorts of tortuous ways... Or maybe it's half Italian, half Spanish in ancestry (a broad bean, maybe not lol)

Incidentally, I googled it to see what came up and there is a women's surfing film called Aqua Dulce. I'm not sure if that elucidates anything either

**Snadger** · 11-11-2008, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by Demeter View Post

Agua dulce is Spanish for sweet (i.e. fresh) water.
Maybe they thought they would change "agua" to "aqua" to save us from all going around pronouncing "agua" in all sorts of tortuous ways... Or maybe it's half Italian, half Spanish in ancestry (a broad bean, maybe not lol)

Incidentally, I googled it to see what came up and there is a women's surfing film called Aqua Dulce. I'm not sure if that elucidates anything either

After smelling broadies when they are being boiled the last thing I would think of is 'sweet water'

.......sure it's not 'sweat water'?

**Flummery** · 11-11-2008, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Snadger View Post

Red Epicure deffo do well from an autumn sowing....I can vouch for that.

I'm also trying a few of the crimson flowered sown in the autumn.

And here's me thinking you were an experimentalist Flum?

Oh I tried the experiments. Didn't like the results!

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