Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Digging in sticky soil

Collapse

X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Digging in sticky soil

    Thought I'd share this with everyone as it helped me out greatly this weekend. When digging in heavy soil I find it tends to stick to the spade, so much that quite quickly it becomes heavy and makes it impossible to make another dig. You can push the soil off with you boot but this is cumbersome and causes the soil to stick to your soles. You inevitably stand on the bit you've just dug and it also sticks to front and back of the spade so you do it twice.

    I found that if you keep a lump of wood where you are digging and whack the wood with the side of the spade each time it easily clears the spade. Once I found the knack it was quite easy and managed to dig for two hours. You must make sure you strike perpendicular to the grain otherwise you can split the wood. Oh and don't forget to keep retreving the wood from under the soil!
    http://plot62.blogspot.com/

  • #2
    Hmmm.
    Traditionally, you shouldn't dig the soil if it's so wet that it sticks to your boots. You do more harm than good, treading all over and compacting it.
    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

    Comment


    • #3
      If it's that sticky you really shouldn't be digging! You will compact the soil instead of loosening and turning it. Does it really need digging, or could you get away with spreading compost/manure and letting the worms do the work?

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by rustylady View Post
        If it's that sticky you really shouldn't be digging! You will compact the soil instead of loosening and turning it. Does it really need digging, or could you get away with spreading compost/manure and letting the worms do the work?
        I agree rustylady! No dig is the way to go!
        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

        Diversify & prosper


        Comment


        • #5
          Dont dig it Matt. I had soil like that. Just keep dumping "good stuff" on top of it. It will all rot and work in by itself. There is no quick fix, but over time it will all become good soil. Stay off it, don't dig it, and grow what you can while you're waiting. It will all come good in the end - and faster than you think.

          From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

          Comment


          • #6
            The reason I was digging was to create beds and paths. I was only standing on the paths so no risk of compacting anything I don't want to. Sadly I don't have any compost and the cost of manure is so expensive - £70 for a trailer - I won't be getting any of that.

            Maybe its not the ideal soil conditions but the weather was sunny and I had a few free hours. Sometimes you've got to grab these opportunities when they are there. Now I have all he plot marked out and ready to go. If I waited for it to dry out it might be March or later before I next went down!
            http://plot62.blogspot.com/

            Comment


            • #7
              Sounds similar to me matt. Although I wasn't digging at the weekend, I was straddling the beds as I planted some onions sets. By the end of it I was about a foot taller as all the mud had stuck to the soles of my boots. Only ground I was compacting though was the paths fortunately.

              Just noticed you're in Abingdon - know it well. My Grandad used to live there up until he died a couple of years ago. Lived in the Alms Houses by St Helens overlooking the river. Lovely in the summer!
              A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

              BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

              Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


              What would Vedder do?

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Matt. View Post
                The reason I was digging was to create beds and paths. I was only standing on the paths so no risk of compacting anything I don't want to. Sadly I don't have any compost and the cost of manure is so expensive - £70 for a trailer - I won't be getting any of that.

                Maybe its not the ideal soil conditions but the weather was sunny and I had a few free hours. Sometimes you've got to grab these opportunities when they are there. Now I have all he plot marked out and ready to go. If I waited for it to dry out it might be March or later before I next went down!
                Without meaning to sound patronisingto dig on sticky soil is not recommended because it destroys the soil structure and squeeezes out any air pockets formed by worm activity, dead roots or organic matter. If you've left big clods on the surface for the frosts to get into it, it should go some way to achieving a seedbed in Spring though!

                Round here straw is about £1 per bale and can be used on it's own as a mulch or mixed with cardboard, paper or if you have it, homemade compost.
                If the soil is as sticky as you say, the only way you are going to make it any better is by adding some form of organic matter, possibly even a green manure, or by adding grit to break it up.

                I personally mulch with straw or FYM(collected for free) to make full use of natures little helpers to do the digging for me!
                My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                Diversify & prosper


                Comment


                • #9
                  £70 a trailer bloody hell that must be one hell off a trailer

                  is there no stables near you or any farms

                  drive up and ask if you can bag some "poo" and be on your way

                  have you any idea how much this will cost the riding stables to get rid off it is a hell off a lot off money

                  the most i ever paid and it hurt me to pay this was £20 and this was well rotted manue and it covered a plot as a winter mulch to be dug in

                  hope this helps

                  regards

                  matt
                  "The Rabbit is 'the meek who has inherited the earth' proof against the worst man can do to it, including germ warfare, shot, trap, net, ferret and dog. I swear that on the day after the holocaust a pair of grey ears will rise cautiously above the smoking ashes of our world"............ JH

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    ok

                    spoted your location at the top off your posts

                    got you some numbers for you to ring and ask for free muck

                    here is a link

                    riding stables loc: Abingdon, Oxfordshire - Google Maps

                    hope this works

                    regards

                    matt
                    "The Rabbit is 'the meek who has inherited the earth' proof against the worst man can do to it, including germ warfare, shot, trap, net, ferret and dog. I swear that on the day after the holocaust a pair of grey ears will rise cautiously above the smoking ashes of our world"............ JH

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Are such places likely to deliver muck do you think? I don't have a car so can't collect. Anyone used anywhere in SE London?

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        I'd be surprised if they delivered without you paying them. I pay £20 for about a tonne, and it's really good stuff. Backed onto my plot and tipped right onto the beds!

                        BTW - In my view there are times when it's ok to dig when the soil is sticky. If you are opening new beds in ground that was previously turfed for example - the soil is likely to be compacted already and you might as well open it up a bit to let the weather get in. Best to use a fork as much as poss, rather than a spade which can 'smear' the mud into an impermeable layer with each stroke.
                        Last edited by Paul Wagland; 08-02-2008, 06:18 PM.
                        Resistance is fertile

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Paul Wagland View Post
                          I'd be surprised if they delivered without you paying them. I pay £20 for about a tonne, and it's really good stuff. Backed onto my plot and tipped right onto the beds!

                          BTW - In my view there are times when it's ok to dig when the soil is sticky. If you are opening new beds in ground that was previously turfed for example - the soil is likely to be compacted already and you might as well open it up a bit to let the weather get in. Best to use a fork as much as poss, rather than a spade which can 'smear' the mud into an impermeable layer with each stroke.
                          It's a matter of degree of stickyness I suppose! If you are sinking up to your wellie tops in mud and leaving your wellie behind or falling over when you try to walk................... get off the land and go make a cuppa and sow some seeds in the greenhouse!

                          An old turfing trick that springs to mind is to work from a scaffolding board so you are spreading the weight, just keep moving it back as you dig!
                          My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                          to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                          Diversify & prosper


                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Snadger View Post

                            An old turfing trick that springs to mind is to work from a scaffolding board so you are spreading the weight, just keep moving it back as you dig!
                            That is a top tip and i use it all the time when i lay turf

                            regards

                            matt
                            "The Rabbit is 'the meek who has inherited the earth' proof against the worst man can do to it, including germ warfare, shot, trap, net, ferret and dog. I swear that on the day after the holocaust a pair of grey ears will rise cautiously above the smoking ashes of our world"............ JH

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Paul Wagland View Post
                              I'd be surprised if they delivered without you paying them. I pay £20 for about a tonne, and it's really good stuff. Backed onto my plot and tipped right onto the beds!
                              I don't mind paying if they can deliver. Will get in touch with Dulwich stables and see what they can do.

                              £20 for a tonne sounds a bargain, though, of course I have absolutely no idea what a tonne of horse much looks like - sounds a lot though!

                              Comment

                              Latest Topics

                              Collapse

                              Recent Blog Posts

                              Collapse
                              Working...
                              X