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    Default Understanding Seed Circles and the VSP

    VSP (Virtual Seed Parcel)

    Is a permanent seed collection/swap, which consists of 3 sections (had it not split a couple of years ago it is likely it would no longer exist as it had gotten too big/too much for one person, there was a 4th section but I don't think it exists now, I am sure GL will soon say otherwise)

    VSP Chilli, Pepper & Tomato Seed Lists (run by Scarlet) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_92072.html
    VSP - Cucurbit, Lettuce Family and Miscellaneous Seed Lists (run by Sparrow100) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_92073.html
    VSP - Peas, Beans, Fruit, Flowers and Herb Seed Lists (run by me, Norfolkgrey) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_91830.html

    So 3 sections have lists (see links above) you can pick what you 'want' from. If there are 10 packs you want (all in the same section) you need to send a min. of 10 packs in exchange along with a SAE.
    Each section has times for when you can request seeds usually around Nov. and again Jan-Mar. ish.
    We (Scarlet, Sparrow and Myself) ask that you list what you want to both 'put in and take out' for ease/transparency/okaying on the request threads (see below). Over the years there have been a few people taking the piddle i.e take out 10 different rare packs in exchange for a split pack of little gem lettuce seeds in return. (I am not mean by nature but I will be if put in that situation). Also the seeds can be self saved or bought/commercial packets. We are currently trying to clamp down on some of the more common varieties just to get the quantity down.

    VSP Chilli, Pepper & Tomato Seed Requests https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_92164.html
    VSP - Cucurbit, Lettuce Family and Miscellaneous Seed Requests https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_92074.html
    VSP - Peas, Beans, Fruit, Flowers and Herb Seed Requests https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...sts_91832.html

    The seeds you send in in exchange will stay there until someone else requests them.

    Seed Circles

    These are done on an annual basis.

    The All In Seed Circle 2018 (run by Norfolkgrey) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...8-a_95689.html
    The Flower Seed Circle 2018 (run by Norfolkgrey) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...8-a_95685.html
    The Chilli and Pepper seed Circle 2018 (run by Scarlet) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...8-a_95681.html
    The Pea and Bean Circle 2018 (run by Scarlet) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...8-a_95502.html
    The Tomato Seed Circle 2018 (run by Scarlet) https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...8-a_95680.html

    All self saved seed that year. Everyone saves enough for everyone in the group so once distributed everyone has the same seed minus there own.
    Scarlet has no issue with peeps putting VSP requests in at the same time as 1 or more seed circles (all must be run by Scarlet) to reduce postage, so just the 1 SAE instead of 2 or more. (The same goes for me for my VSP and circles)

    The soft fruit swap is unlikely to happen this year due to lack of interest and I am not sure about the biennial swap as nothing has been posted since last year.

    All exchanges on the vine single swap, circle, VSP etc. require 3 months as a member and 50 posts to try and reduce the risk of someone taking the piddle. See swap rules https://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/gr...nce_76437.html


    Please say if that still doesn't make sense. I know some of it seems overcomplicated but there is method to much of the madness
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    Makes sense to me.
    Well said, NG.
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    While I think the VSP is a fantastic idea, I have had no requests this year and few last year.

    Given that the seeds are of varying ages, if there are no takers in the next season I don't think it's worth keeping my section going.

    Very happy to be persuaded otherwise...
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    As you suggested NG, the brassicas and roots is no more, the seeds that were left were donated to local community groups and two primary schools (carrots)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparrow100 View Post
    While I think the VSP is a fantastic idea, I have had no requests this year and few last year.

    Given that the seeds are of varying ages, if there are no takers in the next season I don't think it's worth keeping my section going.

    Very happy to be persuaded otherwise...
    Same here to be honest

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    Maybe its time to close the VSP?
    Stick to Seed circles and individuals offering seeds to swap.
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    I haven't had many requests either. Will leave it till March 2019 and as mentioned it may be it for the VSP So there you go grapes it is now in your hands. Request times are Nov and Jan-March.
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    Ok I'll embarrass myself by asking a stupid question about the VSP

    I know you send in as many packets as you want out. Also know you would prefer self saved or slightly unusual varieties. Not 300 packets of cress.

    Do the seeds that have to be sent in need to fall into your categories? I'm assuming yes.

    This is where I personally have difficulties because on the very rare occasion that I have seeds to swap ( as some of you may know, I grow everything ). I usually want something from a different category .

    It would be very sad to see the VSP close. But then there is no point you putting lots of time and effort into something that's not being used.

    Thank you all for your hard work with the VSP and seed circles. Even though I may not use them much. I appreciate the work that goes into it
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