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  • Cavalo nero v Nero di Toscana v Cavalo nero di Toscana

    HELP!!! Does anyone know the difference between them? Are they the same? I'm confused... Does anyone have seeds of/experience on any of them?

    I want to sow some for winter but it seems that almost all the recipes refer to "Cavalo nero" and almost all the seed merchants to "Nero di Toscana"!

    Can anyone help??????

  • #2
    Apparently they are the same. (Cant paste the link for some reason but if you google them both you'll find a lot of info)

    You always learn something new
    Last edited by Alexx; 26-05-2007, 11:40 PM. Reason: hyperlink problem

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    • #3
      Having grown some last year I concur they are one and the same. Unfortunately I am struggling to get much seed (left over from last year) to germinate this year although I am drying some of the seed pods at the moment.
      Bright Blessings
      Earthbabe

      If at first you don't succeed, open a bottle of wine.

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      • #4
        Thank you for your help! Armed with my newly gained knowledge I went out yesterday and got myself some Nero de Toscana seeds from a local garden centre... now just need better weather to sow my new seeds!

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        • #5
          I usually just refer to it as 'Black Tuskan' kale and I also grow Red Russian kale!
          My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
          to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

          Diversify & prosper


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Raquel View Post
            Thank you for your help! Armed with my newly gained knowledge I went out yesterday and got myself some Nero de Toscana seeds from a local garden centre... now just need better weather to sow my new seeds!
            Hi Raquel,

            It is end of may, you should be able to sow now without waiting any longer
            unless your area still subject to frost. Nero di Toscano are brassica's family, they love cool weather and can withstand cold weather ( I think they are winter hardy but do need some wind protections during winter ).

            Happy planting,
            Momol
            I grow, I pick, I eat ...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by momol View Post
              Hi Raquel,

              It is end of may, you should be able to sow now without waiting any longer
              unless your area still subject to frost. Nero di Toscano are brassica's family, they love cool weather and can withstand cold weather ( I think they are winter hardy but do need some wind protections during winter ).

              Happy planting,
              Momol
              I agree momol...out of all the winter kales they are the 'softest'! Worth percevering with though as they are also one of the tastiest!
              Even when they do eventually run to seed there seed heads can be eaten like broccoli and are very tasty!
              My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
              to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

              Diversify & prosper


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Raquel View Post
                HELP!!! Does anyone know the difference between them? Are they the same? I'm confused... Does anyone have seeds of/experience on any of them?

                I want to sow some for winter but it seems that almost all the recipes refer to "Cavalo nero" and almost all the seed merchants to "Nero di Toscana"!

                Can anyone help??????
                Nero in Greek means Water
                Last edited by pigletwillie; 29-05-2007, 09:12 AM.
                The river Trent is lovely, I know because I have walked on it for 18 years.
                Brian Clough

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                • #9
                  Just as well it's in italian then and can happily mean black
                  Bright Blessings
                  Earthbabe

                  If at first you don't succeed, open a bottle of wine.

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                  • #10
                    This is a great Kale, stands all winter, tastes delish (but that means the caterpillars like it too)
                    Shame none of mine germinated this year, huh?
                    All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                    • #11
                      I've had probs with mine too but that is from last year's seed. I'm hoping to have some saved from the stuff that went to seed earlier in the year but will probably buy some to be sure as it is lush.
                      Bright Blessings
                      Earthbabe

                      If at first you don't succeed, open a bottle of wine.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Earthbabe View Post
                        I've had probs with mine too but that is from last year's seed. I'm hoping to have some saved from the stuff that went to seed earlier in the year but will probably buy some to be sure as it is lush.
                        Looking at your avatar Earthbabe I always envisioned you as being OLDER!
                        My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                        to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                        Diversify & prosper


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                        • #13
                          I've kept well but thought you might all prefer the vision that is Miss EB compared to my not so photogenic self
                          Bright Blessings
                          Earthbabe

                          If at first you don't succeed, open a bottle of wine.

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                          • #14
                            My Cavelo Nero is now pricked out in modules and will be planted out in a few weeks. Just how hardy is it?
                            Last edited by pigletwillie; 16-06-2007, 09:03 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pigletwillie View Post
                              My Cavelo Nero is now prickedo ut in modules and will be planted out in a few weeks. Just how hardy is it?
                              I still think it's the softest of all the kales, relatively, but having said that, I managed to grow it (and am growing it again) in the NE of England!

                              I think it is also called Dinosaur Kale because it looks like a small version of the trees in Jurrasic Park!

                              Good for you as well!

                              http://www.seedsofchange.com/enewsle...ue_57/kale.asp
                              My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
                              to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

                              Diversify & prosper


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