true shoots [ leaves ]

**SarzWix** · 21-02-2009, 07:40 PM

When your seeds first germinate, the first set of leaves to come are 'seed leaves'. They aren't the same as the leaves that the plant will grow later. So the second set of leaves are known as 'true' leaves because they are the ones which the plant has grown itself, as opposed to the 'seed leaves' which are stored in the seed.

Hope that makes some kind of sense?!

**lynda66** · 21-02-2009, 07:41 PM

ie the leaves after the first 2

**ardroil** · 21-02-2009, 07:43 PM

thanks sarwiz, i have noticed on my tomato's that the first set of leaves were normal and the second set had the hairy stems, which i assume is the true leaves,

**lynda66** · 21-02-2009, 07:45 PM

Thats em !!!!

**ardroil** · 21-02-2009, 07:46 PM

do you pinch out the first leaves after the other ones [ true leaves ] come through?

**zazen999** · 21-02-2009, 07:50 PM

No - Leave them be. They are the food for the plant for its first few weeks.

**ardroil** · 21-02-2009, 07:55 PM

cheers zazen, i think i better leave them then, thanks,
is this the same for all fruit and veg?

**zazen999** · 21-02-2009, 07:59 PM

I think so...unless there are any quirky ones that prefer it. I've not come across any yet.

With beans, the bean forms 2 shrivelled up arms....not like leaves at all but they hang there and you want to pull them off but it would be cruel!!!

**Hazel at the Hill** · 21-02-2009, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by ardroil View Post

thanks sarwiz, i have noticed on my tomato's that the first set of leaves were normal and the second set had the hairy stems, which i assume is the true leaves,

Blimey - you've got good eyesight!

**Iamhanuman** · 21-02-2009, 10:20 PM

too flipping right Hazel!!!!
and i've never spotted shrivelled up arms on beans before Zazen! i'm gonna be keeping my eyes peeled this year!

**zazen999** · 21-02-2009, 10:21 PM

I'll post a photo tomorrow....or in a minute if I can be bothered

ETA: there you go...beans with little arms.

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**Iamhanuman** · 21-02-2009, 10:34 PM

my god you're right Zazen.
Shrivelled arms if ever I saw them!

i will be taking some bizarre pics myself as soon as i possibly can.

you might get a taste of my rabbit seedlings if you're lucky...

**zazen999** · 21-02-2009, 10:36 PM

Look...they're waving!!!

anyway...er - rabbit seedlings? Have I missed something?

**Iamhanuman** · 21-02-2009, 10:45 PM

my lovely wife bought some off ebay for our rabbits to graze on for a healthy snack

The mix contains:

CHICORY
PLANTAIN
VETCH
ALFALFA
TIMOTHY GRASS
SOW THISTLE
RED CLOVER
WHITE CLOVER
MARSH MALLOW
DANDELION
PARSLEY

and we planted them with our little boy a couple of days ago.
The seedlings are popping up in our kitchen at the moment. Once they're nice and established we're going to pop the tray out in the little greenhouse and i'll take some pictures. Not sure how exciting that will be!

so not quite baby rabbits popping up, thankfully!!

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