Plot plan advice please

**SarzWix** · 01-02-2009, 07:13 PM

The only thing that occurs to me is that a large part of the right hand side will have had brassicas in. Where will you put them next year?

**bobleponge** · 02-02-2009, 04:40 AM

Sorry FD I tried to look at it but couldnt read it properly. Is there any way I can make it bigger to read it?

**SarzWix** · 02-02-2009, 07:33 AM

Click the picture and it opens in another window, click it again, it opens in a bigger one, then click it again to enlarge. Eventually, after enough clicks, it becomes readable

**Two_Sheds** · 02-02-2009, 08:16 AM

You seem to have a very large space for rocket, and hardly any for French beans. This is clearly an error.

**Two_Sheds** · 02-02-2009, 08:18 AM

Leek Rust

Originally posted by Finedon.Dandy View Post

we have suffered rust on leeks in two places on the plot so hope that their position this year will prevent a recurrence

Crowded plants, high humidity, excessive soil nitrogen and insufficient soil potassium encourage the disease. Says the RHS.
Try spacing out a bit more, and feeding with high potash (tomato food or comfrey tea)

**Two_Sheds** · 02-02-2009, 08:20 AM

I really admire your plan, it looks very smart.

I can't see any squash/pumpkins?

Lettuce doesn't need it's own space ... just squeeze it in amongst something taller (because it likes a bit of shade).

**Finedon.Dandy** · 02-02-2009, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by SarzWix View Post

The only thing that occurs to me is that a large part of the right hand side will have had brassicas in. Where will you put them next year?

We are trying to roughly stick to a 3 bed rotation albeit it is a little awkward due to the odd sized plots but I figured next year the brassicas would go into the potato bed? The runner beans will now be in a permanent position (as they shade the plot if they are put anywhere else) - my Dad does this and never has any problems.

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

You seem to have a very large space for rocket, and hardly any for French beans. This is clearly an error.

Yes - I should have put them in front of the runner beans - spinach will be moved to somewhen after the spuds. Mind you after the dismal failiure of last years plants that didnt come to anything maybe its a good thing not to give them any ground space!

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

Crowded plants, high humidity, excessive soil nitrogen and insufficient soil potassium encourage the disease. Says the RHS.
Try spacing out a bit more, and feeding with high potash (tomato food or comfrey tea)

I never knew that about the tomato food - will be trying that - thanks TS!

Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post

I really admire your plan, it looks very smart.

I can't see any squash/pumpkins?

Lettuce doesn't need it's own space ... just squeeze it in amongst something taller (because it likes a bit of shade).

I was demoralised with my smart plan last year as I never stuck with it - I was advised on here (and will try to stick with) not to worry. I will def do that with the lettuce - will encourae me to do successional sowings then if I just sow some when I have a gap I guess. What could I sow in its place? I guess I could sow some butternut? - another crop I have become fed up with due to its awful failiures!

Thanks for all spending so much time to help - it is really appreciated.

**zazen999** · 02-02-2009, 09:36 AM

Hiya - I'd stick beans in - where ever you can! Both french and shelly, which store really well and fill the winter with lovely hearty soups and stews.

Lettuces - always start a few off in modules every few weeks, and pop them in where you have a gap.

I can send a bean selection if you need any...

**Finedon.Dandy** · 02-02-2009, 10:03 AM

Andrea

Bashfull Bill (his new vine nickname - do you like it?) loves baked beans but both him and and Bluebelle dont seem to like any other pulses - mind you I have never bean(sorry for the pun!) all that keen either. Choirboy on the other hand eats anything and everything - I am only growing the broad beans for him! If you have A bean you think the kids would eat then I would love to try a couple of plants - thanks.

**Two_Sheds** · 02-02-2009, 10:15 AM

Tammy, the secret is to not tell them beans are in there! On their own, served plain, they is fairly horrible, but make a stew/soup, and shove in a handful of beans. Liquidise if necessary to further hide the evidence

**zazen999** · 02-02-2009, 10:18 AM

I totally agree, we use them in chillis, soups, stews and the fabulous tomato and bean soup that Two-sheds posted last week. In fact, we've had it on friday and are having it again tonight.

**Finedon.Dandy** · 02-02-2009, 10:28 AM

I am getting better at hiding stuff - Bashfull Bill enjoys soups so I will try harder! promise!

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