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  • Variety Advice Needed Please You Brilliant Lot!

    OK afyer again looking through countless varities I am as usual confused.
    What I need advice on it veg varities that cam cope with close spacing. I particularly need to know ideas for cabbage both summer and saviy, which celeriac, which swede etc.
    I tried savoy 'Samantha' this year and although they are supposed to cope with being closer together they have not done that well at a 15in gap.
    If anybody has a list of 'dos'nt mind being squigded together veg' I will be eternaly grateful.
    Sue
    p.s which parsnips have short stumpy roots?
    I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

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    Guernsey half-long and white gem are stump-rooted parsnips.
    http://mudandgluts.com - growing fruit and veg in suburbia

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    • #3
      most pointed cabbages can be grown close together.
      Its Grand to be Daft...

      https://www.youtube.com/user/beauchief1?feature=mhee

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      • #4
        Minicole round cabbage, and Hispi pointed cabbage do well close together.

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        • #5
          Ta
          I will make a note so when I trawl through the seed cats I have a vague idea what I'm looking for.
          Sue
          I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

          Outreach co-ordinator for the Gnome, Pixie and Fairy groups within the Nutters Club.

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          • #6
            You can also plant most things in staggered rows like this.

            X X X X X

            X X X X

            X X X X X

            I do this with slower growing winter savoys, etc
            Its Grand to be Daft...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lumpy View Post
              p.s which parsnips have short stumpy roots?


              That sounds like any parsnip I care to grow in my garden!!!
              The proof of the growing is in the eating.
              Leave Rotten Fruit.
              Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potasium - potash.
              Autant de têtes, autant d'avis!!!!!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by arpoet View Post
                You can also plant most things in staggered rows like this.
                Code:
                 X   X   X   X   X
                
                   X   X   X   X
                
                X   X   X   X   X
                I do this with slower growing winter savoys, etc
                I've added a CODE tag to preserve the spacing you had in your original (which the forum software, in its infinite wisdom, had munched )
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                • #9
                  I grow all my cabbages at half spacing, I just get smaller heads. As there's only two of us now I cant see the point in growing to feed the compost heap. Again half spaced carrots and parsnips just means smaller roots
                  Last edited by Greenleaves; 20-10-2014, 06:25 PM.

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                  • #10
                    I grow my cabbages (Hispi and Spring Hero usually) in 18 inch square pots, 1 in each corner and 1 in the middle. There is a small variety called Pixie which I used to grow but haven't seen recently. I did try this with red cabbage (Kalibos) this year, but only 3 of the 5 formed heads of tennis ball size.
                    A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP. - Leonard Nimoy

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Thelma Sanders View Post
                      Minicole round cabbage, and Hispi pointed cabbage do well close together.
                      Vote from me for these two too.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Penellype View Post
                        I did try this with red cabbage (Kalibos) this year, but only 3 of the 5 formed heads of tennis ball size.
                        Isn't Kalibos a pointy headed type? Pretty sure it's the variety I've been growing this year about 12" apart.

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                        • #13
                          Can you grow other brassicas closer together as well? Sprouts would be of interest! I really like the idea of red cabbage.
                          I suppose I have followed religiously the advice I found in several books that said somethings won't grow in either SFG, pots or small raised beds.
                          I am plabbing celeriac and swede next year as their is only 2 of us and I really don't want to grow anything that could feed a small country for a week.
                          Sue.
                          p.s thank you, you lovely people for the advice.
                          I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. Thomas A. Edison

                          Outreach co-ordinator for the Gnome, Pixie and Fairy groups within the Nutters Club.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            Isn't Kalibos a pointy headed type? Pretty sure it's the variety I've been growing this year about 12" apart.
                            Yes Kalibos is a pointy head type. I've had fun with it this year - I don't normally grow red cabbage. I planted my 5 plants in their pot, which was much too small as the plants were very congested with huge leaves. The pot was in fairly deep shade, under veggiemesh against an east facing wall, with a garage to the south of it. I also took 2 plants to my friend's garden where I grew them in the soil and sunshine, again under veggiemesh. Both plants produced cabbages larger than a football, the one we have harvested so far was so heavy I could hardly lift it, and the stem was so thick we had to use an axe to cut it off! It took my friend's family over a week to eat it. The remaining one, still in the ground, looks even bigger.
                            A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP. - Leonard Nimoy

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                            • #15
                              More or less anything can be squeezed, you just have to be more careful with you watering and feeding regimes.

                              For instance I plant my spring cabbage 9 to the square metre in a 8 inch deep bed. Like you there are only two of us so as soon as a plant is large enough to feed the two of us it gets picked leaving the rest to grow on.

                              As to plants that will not grow in containers I have yet to find one.
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