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    I would really appreciate some advice about allotment.

    I have recently taken on an allotment which has had three years of neglect. I have removed the plastic weed matting from about half the plot. That was not any easy job as weeds had grown thrown the matting into the soil. The rest of the plot is thickly covered with grass, the remainder of the raspberries (which being removed as they are sickly looking) and more of the matting.


    The soil I have I think iis clay with a bit of sand and looks to be compacted. It was showing massive cracks during the warmer, drier weeks of August and Septemeber so I'm guessing quite a bit of clay and not a lot of organic matter.

    The thing is until last year I was living in Australia. I'm slowly get back into the UK seasonal changes but everything I learnt about veggie, herb and flower growing I learnt in Australia. I have large holes in my knowledge particularly with dealing things like prolonged periods of rain, wet soil and frost.

    I would like to properly dig over the half of the allotment I have cleared but I'm wondering if it is too late in the year with the rain. I'm in Oxfordshire if that changes things. I'm wondering how wet is too wet to dig and how do I tell if the soil is too wet. I'm wondering what tasks I should be doing over the rest of autumn

    I have left in the solitary goosebery bush. I have never had a gooseberry bush before. It hasn't been pruned in who knows how long. Should I prune it now, feed it or do anything esle with it?

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    Hello & welcome to the jungle greenboots. I personally don't like digging, it hurts my back. So instead I would cover the cleared area with a thick mulch of well rotted horse manure & leave it over winter, this will give you time to prepare the other half. Now that's just my take on your question, expect many more variations.
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    • #3
      Welcome to the vine GB, if the ground is very wet and sticky I would not dig until it has dried out a bit. We might have had a lot of rain recently but the ground was very dry, you will be amazed how quick it dries especially if the wind picks up.

      cant help with the gooseberry pruning but some clever grape will be along soon.....other than that what BM says ^^

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      • #4
        I've previously read if it sticks to your boots it's too wet to dig
        And welcome

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        Last edited by Mumbles; 16-10-2014, 06:22 PM.

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        • #5
          I would dig all however wet under foot and leave it as rough as you like. The frosts over winter will do the hard work of breaking down the clods for you.

          As for pruning your gooseberry the idea is to end up with a wine goblet shape so cut out any growth in the centre of the bush and any other branches that are crisscrossing.

          Don't bin the prunings, make a slot in the ground with a spade and slip a few in there. This time next year, you will have some lovely new bushes.

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          • #6
            Hi and welcome to the vine. Unfortunately I have no wisdom to share from what has already been said. Good luck

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            • #7
              Work One a section at a time and cover up the rest until you have time to do more. No digging is an option but it may be worth digging to begin with as it will allow the frost to breakdown the lumps and help with digging in some organic matter. It will also allow you dig out the worst of any weeds.

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              • #8
                I'd cover it with cardboard over winter. I'd also plant in some overwintering things, cabbages, kale, bok choi, broad beans and in mid winter garlic.

                I only dig holes to put trees into.

                Maybe try a few different things on parts. Divide into 4 and try 4 things, see what suits your soil, and your temperament?
                Ali

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                • #9
                  You need to get some organic matter on. Tons of the stuff. Weeds will flourish up through it - well nasty ones will anyway, couch, dock, dandelions... So remove those first.

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                  • #10
                    As tempting as the idea of just spreading the manure over the allotment is, I don't think it's a good idea as up against the fence that backs onto people's gardens. I'm not sure the smell would be appreciated. I'm still reasonably young and fit so can withstand the digging. I'm also currently not working so have the time spend. Also my OH promised to help with the heavy lifting, including clearing and digging, on weekends.

                    Thanks tfor the soild description. The top half of the allotment, which is still covered with longish grass is still wet and extremely sticky when I looked at it this afternoon. The bottom half wasn't so I spent time digging that over this afternoon

                    Aberdeenplotter thank you for the hint about gooseberry cuttings, I would never have thought of that.

                    I have never eaten broad beans before. I guess I could grow a few to see what they are like. Will broad beans, cabbage and kale be okay on a shady plot over winter? I'm up in a southeast that is next to a copse on the south side. I'm also assuming by this time of year I'll need to buy plants. Is that correct?

                    alldigging, thanks for mentioning couch grass as I had no idea that could be a problem.

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                    • #11
                      Just for your info GB..........well rotted manure doesn't smell.........only of earth.
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                      • #12
                        https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...gkAGv8W3xm_oRQ

                        Watch this!
                        All of them! It'll only take you about 15 x 23 minutes... Not long!
                        They do a scruffy neglected plot in a couple of ways!

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