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    Hi all. This is my first steps into gardening and have just acquired my first allotment so I'm very much a novice.

    Have spent the last few month clearing the allotment and got it in good nick.

    Have followed some instruction online and planted some Ambassador peas direct into the soil a couple of weeks ago but still no show. Should I have planted these indoors first to germinate?

    Also any tips or hints on tips on creating a cane structure as support would be great! X

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    Hi Kev
    I start my peas,sweet corn off in a takeaway container covered with damp kitchen roll until they sprout and then plant them in pots and keep them in greenhouse then cold frame until they are big enough to plant out.beans I sow into pots in the greenhouse then cold frame until hardened off.beans I support using the wigwam method last year but this year I'm putting tall tree steaks in and wiring then string inning between the wires,as for peas I've always used netting supported with old windbreak poles.

    Good luck john


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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kev IRV View Post
      Hi all. This is my first steps into gardening and have just acquired my first allotment so I'm very much a novice.

      Have spent the last few month clearing the allotment and got it in good nick.

      Have followed some instruction online and planted some Ambassador peas direct into the soil a couple of weeks ago but still no show. Should I have planted these indoors first to germinate?

      Also any tips or hints on tips on creating a cane structure as support would be great! X
      This year, I have started my peas(mange tout) off in modules in plastic greenhouse, and then moved them to plot when about4/5 inches high, and they are doing really well. Am growing them up netting attached to canes. Mice might have eaten your seeds, they like them, that's why this year I started off at home. Have a second lot coming along nicely, haven't put netting up for them yet.

      Will also do the same for beans, and grow them up cane wigwam, using one of those green thingies that the canes slot into at the top, cost about £1.00, at Wilko.

      I'm pretty useless at putting up netting and canes, all looks bit flimsy, but as long as it lasts few weeks, will be ok.

      Also put a few slug pellets down as they seem to also like young pea shoots.

      So might be idea to start some more off at home.
      DottyR

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      • #4
        If you only want a few peas or beans it's easy to start them indoors. However, if you are sowing a lot then obviously it's not a realistic option to try to grow hundreds (Apx 10 seeds required per foot of row) in pots/modules
        They can take a couple of weeks to come up - but you really need to cover with netting or polythene to stop birds or mice eating the seeds before they germinate.

        Beans are quite successful sown a couple at a time at the base of the canes - but you'll have to wait until at least mid-May for the soil to warm up before sowing.

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        • #5
          This year is my first at growing peas and beans too. I sowed my peas about two weeks ago... I think... directly in to my bed. I have been checking them everyday and only started seeing growth two days ago.

          My sweet peas I sowed early in the year indoors and they are now outside and growing wonderfully.

          Beans I am sowing indoors this weekend then planting out in about a month, depending on the weather.

          I hope yours turn out well :O) xx
          Last edited by MrsHippo; 26-04-2014, 09:38 AM.
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          • #6
            Welcome to the wonderful world of growing, it's all about the waiting, difficulty is knowing when the waiting has gone on too long, read through the posts on here a good percentage are by us impatient people asking other impatient people if we've waited long enough before doing something else

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            • #7
              Thanks EVERYONE for all the input I'll take it all on board! This is only my first post and everyone seems really helpful.

              Just off to get my boots on and have a look over it's pelted down with rain for a solid 24 hours but has stopped now! Hoping to see some life in there.


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              • #8
                I started peas off indoors and got a kindly wigging on here that peas do not need to be started off indoors! I'm another amateur so that was just ignorance on my part. Having said that, they're happy enough since being potted on and then planted out 2-3 weeks ago and are flowering, so superficially no damage has been done, but I don't know if the plants may be fundamentally weakened for having been started indoors, esp as I have no greenhouse or conservatory and they have to make do with a windowsill.
                Is there anything that isn't made better by half an hour pottering in the veg patch?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MrsCordial View Post
                  I started peas off indoors and got a kindly wigging on here that peas do not need to be started off indoors! I'm another amateur so that was just ignorance on my part. Having said that, they're happy enough since being potted on and then planted out 2-3 weeks ago and are flowering, so superficially no damage has been done, but I don't know if the plants may be fundamentally weakened for having been started indoors, esp as I have no greenhouse or conservatory and they have to make do with a windowsill.
                  So long as you harden them off so they don't go straight from cosy and warm to whatever the elements throw at them then they'll be fine.


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                  • #10
                    I like to start my peas off indoors to keep the slugs off, particularly if it is wet. I sow 5 or 6 to a 3.5" pot and plant them out when they have been hardened of at 3-4" high. I sometimes sow some more outside when I plant the pot grown ones out, but on more than one occasion this has been a complete failure, so I much prefer the indoor method.
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                    • #11
                      I saw somewhere about soaking peas in paraffin before sowing direct? Mice apparently can't find them then. Not sure I fancy doing it personally but it might work.

                      Beans are always sown on Mayday

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kev IRV View Post
                        planted some Ambassador peas direct into the soil
                        If it's been cold & wet, they will have rotted.
                        If you have mice, they will have been eaten

                        Originally posted by Kev IRV View Post
                        any tips or hints on tips on creating a cane structure
                        Peas don't grow up canes: they have very fine tendrils which twine onto fine netting or string
                        All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kev IRV View Post
                          Hi all. This is my first steps into gardening and have just acquired my first allotment so I'm very much a novice.

                          Have spent the last few month clearing the allotment and got it in good nick.

                          Have followed some instruction online and planted some Ambassador peas direct into the soil a couple of weeks ago but still no show. Should I have planted these indoors first to germinate?

                          Also any tips or hints on tips on creating a cane structure as support would be great! X
                          Hi Mate i always put pease straight in lottie too many to pot on they are very hardy.
                          Mine have been in lottie 4 weeks but it took them 3 week to show,
                          its no problem but like some said MICE but mine are comming up with a few gaps but ok.
                          Hope yours arrive
                          cheers Peter

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                          • #14
                            Cheers peter, was a tad concerned so brushed back the soil gently on one and it's all systems go!!


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Two_Sheds View Post
                              If it's been cold & wet, they will have rotted.
                              If you have mice, they will have been eaten

                              Peas don't grow up canes: they have very fine tendrils which twine onto fine netting or string
                              Thanks! Got some good netting so will go with that cheers.


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