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**Bigmallly** · 08-03-2014, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by 4390evans View Post

Is there any downsides to having a big bush?

I couldn't possibly comment on a family forum....

.....plus the fact that I am a gentleman.........

**veggiechicken** · 08-03-2014, 08:59 PM

^^^ Moving on.....................

Buddleia selfseeds everywhere - its a real pest - but that's the common mauvey-purple one. Never tried to grow it from seed or cuttings

**4390evans** · 08-03-2014, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Bigmallly View Post

I couldn't possibly comment on a family forum....

.....plus the fact that I am a gentleman.........

haha I should really re-read what I type

**4390evans** · 08-03-2014, 10:02 PM

My next door neighbor has the purple type in her garden, looks like its been there for a good few years its very tall but it doesn't look like its self seeded anywhere (but then I wonder if that's cos the soil is compacted round it) I'm thinking about putting it on the bank at the back there is the apple tree there and this year there will be loads of bee/butterfly flowers I'm after loads of coverage as a lot of items has been stolen from the garden in the past few years and I'm wanting to buy some nice stuff this year without it going missing.

Has anyone any idea how fast these grow and do they need any special treatment

Thanks x

**Kristen** · 09-03-2014, 08:53 AM

They seem to self seed along the railways and "poor land" easily - even in the crevices in walls - but I've only had one or two self-seed here (I've got 5 or 6 Buddleias, all named varieties - dunno if they are less likely to set viable, albeit reverted, seed though)

To get one of a specific variety / colour you'd need to take a cutting, but they root easily. Mind you (depending on whether you got a good price at the Pound shop?!

) if they are cheap it might be easier to buy some that already have some size to them, and can be planted now to get the benefit of a seasons growth on them - cutting this year will be a small plant next year, planted out next Autumn will be a bush the next, and a proper plant the year after. Buying will save a couple of years - depends how much hurry you are in perhaps?

**dogsbody** · 09-03-2014, 09:13 AM

I have collected seeds from my 7 varieties and they all grow on - just scattered on the top of compost and watered appropriately. Gave up in the end because I ended up with far too many plants no-one wanted!

**4390evans** · 09-03-2014, 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=dogsbody;1217627 Gave up in the end because I ended up with far too many plants no-one wanted![/QUOTE]

Is there no spare land round your way that would look nice with a buddleia on? Anything I have spare or get sick of seeing in the garden I plant out the back on the hill. People use it as a junk yard but seem to stop when the see something nice growing there

**starloc** · 09-03-2014, 04:34 PM

In the UK ,10 years ago our neighbour climbed over the wall and cut and poured diesel on all my collection of multi coloured buddleia plants because they were `weeds` , I now love the Buddleia , I didnt before they were just there in the garden 20 years or more ago when we moved in.

I now have a fence to stop people getting in, replaced them for the insects and enjoy the ever spreading giant buddleia plants that spread there purple flowering selves everywhere , they need no help....our road in Liverpool is purple in the summer from the chimneys to the gutters...purple buddleias everywhere

The only one that doesnt seem to grow from seed is the Buddleia Globosa `orange ball tree` , I like that one but they dont seem to spread

**noviceveggrower** · 09-03-2014, 04:59 PM

Hi, my next door neighbour has a massive buddleia tree so I took some cuttings off it. Well actually not cuttings just several long twiggy bits. Those that had flowers on I snipped off. Then I took them down the allotment and stuck them in the ground. Put about eight in and all but one has taken. Have got them in a row to help cover a nasty brown fence and for the butterflies.

**dogsbody** · 09-03-2014, 05:45 PM

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) not - but I do have a very large amount of poppy seeds that could pop up in lots of places / gardens / verges this year (see separate thread- don't know how to link),

But great to hear you are beating the tippers at their own game, with a wildlife slant too.

**4390evans** · 09-03-2014, 10:35 PM

I love the buddleia, I don't have many favorite flowers shrubs etc but that is defo well favored. I saw a buddleia bush in the middle of a construction site I was in two minds to go and dig it up, it would only go to waste. I thought it would of been easy to grow one from seed considering how that has some how self seeded there but unfortunately I just don't think I have the green thumb.

Well the �1 shop one is good for me, I think Ill buy some for my aunty to as she loves sitting in the garden watching nature but she doesn't like gardening. x

**FB.** · 11-03-2014, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by starloc View Post

The only one that doesnt seem to grow from seed is the Buddleia Globosa `orange ball tree` , I like that one but they dont seem to spread

Maybe it needs a specific pollinator to produce viable seeds.
It might also be genetically abnormal; seeds from triploid fruit trees don't have good germination rates (and the seeds of triploid fruit trees often look quite small and deformed; what are the seeds of B.globosa like compared to the wild type Buddleia?).

**Ikeeptrying** · 11-03-2014, 05:02 PM

My OH collected some globosa seeds years ago when on holiday. They all germinated and I have populated the whole of North Yorkshire with them. Interestingly, haven't been able to grow any more from seeds on the globosa bushes in my garden. Maybe they have to be liberated from other people's gardens without their knowledge?

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**starloc** · 11-03-2014, 05:54 PM

The seeds from the normal buddlea have a little parachute, like a dandelion but the globosa just seems to have seeds with no parachute, maybe it should have?, I presumed that the plant was some sort of hybrd with sterile seeds and just take cuttings and they dont seem to do well either, if its seeds can grow it must need a very specific pollinator as I have quite a few types but get no globosa germination.

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