An ancient Italian way to grow Tom... As grams used to do

**veggiechicken** · 22-04-2012, 11:00 PM

Can you buy the seeds here? I like the thought of tomatoes hanging from the ceiling to be picked through the winter.
I found this too Compagnia del Giardinaggio • Leggi argomento - Pomodori per l'inverno. but had to translate it with Google so some of it didn't make much sense!!

**Newton** · 23-04-2012, 06:23 AM

Would it work here Sarico? Sounds great......

**Sarico** · 23-04-2012, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by veggiechicken View Post

Can you buy the seeds here? I like the thought of tomatoes hanging from the ceiling to be picked through the winter.
I found this too Compagnia del Giardinaggio • Leggi argomento - Pomodori per l'inverno. but had to translate it with Google so some of it didn't make much sense!!

I found another website and one of this variety that resist to a draught period is principe borghese. If you do in pots one guy said to water at minimum because it will dry out completely ( in soil instead at night the humidity condensate and give a bit of moisture in soil). I have some principe borghese but I don't know if this Tom seeds breed in uk are still resistant to drought. I try to have a look online but I didn't find them. But I found a Italian company that sell all this variety and lucky me is in my own town in Italy. Now I think is too later to grow them so usually I go. In Italy before Christmas and I will buy some seeds and of course I will share with all of you.

Originally posted by Newton View Post

Would it work here Sarico? Sounds great......

I was gonna plant 6 tomato this year and I will cover the top soil with plastic bag so if Is raining don't get watered but only a bit from the bottom

**Thelma Sanders** · 23-04-2012, 07:55 AM

Seeds of Italy also sell da Appendere (Principe Borghese )
Seeds of Italy - TOMATO PRINCIPE BORGHESE (da Appendere or Eternal tomatoes)

Semi coltivati in Italia non Inghilterra

and it's not too late to grow from seed, if you can start them somewhere warm

**lottie dolly** · 23-04-2012, 08:01 AM

that sounds very interesting Sarico,what about the severe frost in winter here,we could try fleece or similar to help keep it away,thats what experiments are for,oooo idea just come,am thinking attic in the home?
just had a read up,do the leaves die of,and therefore do not need the water,
tomatoes can be hung up inside here to finish ripening of without the soil ball

**Sarico** · 23-04-2012, 08:14 AM

Il pomodorino del piennolo del vesuvio - YouTube look this man how he does the piennolo ( is the name of the chain of hanging tomatoes
plus i found this picture online and look how dry is the land.... and look at the tomato.. this is the tomatoes ( tondino variety)that grow in puglia..
the stone at the bottom is a kind of mulch... i mean thsat the stone get red hot in the morning and at night while they cooldown condensate the humidity and the soil underneath is moist ( enought for the plant to survive)

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**Sarico** · 23-04-2012, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by lottie dolly View Post

that sounds very interesting Sarico,what about the severe frost in winter here,we could try fleece or similar to help keep it away,thats what experiments are for,oooo idea just come,am thinking attic in the home?
just had a read up,do the leaves die of,and therefore do not need the water,
tomatoes can be hung up inside here to finish ripening of without the soil ball

i think the attic or the loft is a perfect place... the hang them on the ceiling because are away from mouse and rat....( they can climb but they can jump that far) so the loft is perfect...

plus i was on the phone with my mum and she told me that when febbraury come the fruit are fresh and because they grow without water are so sweet end not that watery that you do the "pizzico" i mean the last few tomato just squeeze them on top of compost and the circle of life start again...

**Thelma Sanders** · 23-04-2012, 10:36 AM

the water shortage will stress the plants and should make them flower and fruit fairly quickly.
I was always told never to water too much, only enough to stop wilting, for fear of spoiling the flavour.

'dry-farming' of tomatoes is getting quite common in America now to ensure full flavour

**leduesorelle** · 23-04-2012, 01:32 PM

Thanks for linking to my blog, Diary of a Tomato! Last year we started experimenting with growing the Principe Borghese (from Napoli), Grappoli d'Inverno and Pondorosa sel. Larosa (both from Puglia), and another from seeds from a tomato we had in Locorotondo (2011 Grow-out varieties & seed descriptions | Diary of a Tomato). A severe tropical storm forced us to harvest too early, but I just cut open the last of the ones we had in storage: 4.22.12 Cellar onions and a lone tomato | Diary of a Tomato

I haven't heard about the tondino di barletta before, and will be on the look-out for it next fall when we'll be in the Lecce area. Which part of Puglia are you from?

**Sarico** · 23-04-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by leduesorelle View Post

Thanks for linking to my blog, Diary of a Tomato! Last year we started experimenting with growing the Principe Borghese (from Napoli), Grappoli d'Inverno and Pondorosa sel. Larosa (both from Puglia), and another from seeds from a tomato we had in Locorotondo (2011 Grow-out varieties & seed descriptions | Diary of a Tomato). A severe tropical storm forced us to harvest too early, but I just cut open the last of the ones we had in storage: 4.22.12 Cellar onions and a lone tomato | Diary of a Tomato

I haven't heard about the tondino di barletta before, and will be on the look-out for it next fall when we'll be in the Lecce area. Which part of Puglia are you from?

i'm from andria 4 miles from barletta... there are different variety of tondino... i just mention barletta but are more like tondino di altamura, tondino di corato,etc..
emanuele la rosa sementi is in my town... actually a father of my friends is a driver for them... when i will go down in italy i will buy a lot and i think even different vegetable...
you said that last years you tried principe borghese, did you grow it as winter tomato ( i mean cutting the watering) or as usual?

**leduesorelle** · 23-04-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Sarico View Post

i'm from andria 4 miles from barletta... there are different variety of tondino... i just mention barletta but are more like tondino di altamura, tondino di corato,etc..

emanuele la rosa sementi is in my town... actually a father of my friends is a driver for them... when i will go down in italy i will buy a lot and i think even different vegetable...
you said that last years you tried principe borghese, did you grow it as winter tomato ( i mean cutting the watering) or as usual?

Ah, north of Bari then! We hope to get up to the Gargano on our next trip, and might be passing through there. We're also growing cime di rapa, make sure to get seeds for those! Is "tondino" the pugliese word for winter tomato?

We grew all four of the varieties as winter tomatoes. Our growing conditions are much like those in England, wet and cold, but we were successful in getting enough tomatoes to hang and store. The Principe Borghese ripened much earlier than the Pugliese tomatoes, and we had difficulty storing them. The ones from Puglia lasted until this week! If you click on "tomatoes/pomodorini" under "Categories" on my website, you will be able to see all of my posts on growing winter tomatoes, with photos of how we hung them: tomatoes / pomodorini | Diary of a Tomato

Diary of a Tomato

**Sarico** · 23-04-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by leduesorelle View Post

Ah, north of Bari then! We hope to get up to the Gargano on our next trip, and might be passing through there. We're also growing cime di rapa, make sure to get seeds for those! Is "tondino" the pugliese word for winter tomato?

We grew all four of the varieties as winter tomatoes. Our growing conditions are much like those in England, wet and cold, but we were successful in getting enough tomatoes to hang and store. The Principe Borghese ripened much earlier than the Pugliese tomatoes, and we had difficulty storing them. The ones from Puglia lasted until this week! If you click on "tomatoes/pomodorini" under "Categories" on my website, you will be able to see all of my posts on growing winter tomatoes, with photos of how we hung them: tomatoes / pomodorini | Diary of a Tomato

Diary of a Tomato

tondino is mean little round because are so small.. i was looking for the variety but i found an italian blog that they told me that all this variety are not commercial one and are just grow from local people ( that's why different type of tondino) when i go back to italy i will take some seed from that seed company la rosa and share with other grapes ( you don't know grapes are the member of this forum) and for the tondino i have to do as you did... take some tomato and squeeze on piece of paper so i can take the seeds or if the italian custom let me bring over here i will take a full piennolo fo tomato so then i will send one tom to everyone ( if the envelop get squeezed the post office will do half of the job already lol)

**Sarico** · 24-04-2012, 07:40 AM

great news... a was talk with a guy ( we are already friend) about this tomatoes and he told me that he have a group where they trying to keep ald variety alive and he offer to send me some seeds ( but he asked me to save some seed and would be nice to give them away to other people to keep those variety...

**Sarico** · 06-02-2013, 08:43 PM

this are the tomatoes that i was talking about.... this picture is from 2 weeks ago when i ate all of them and the flavor was sweet if considered that they have been harvested in September...

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