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  • Well it's not quite slipped...

    but on my absence note my osteopath has put "bulging disc" as the condition causing me to have yet another week off work.

    Bored now!!
    A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

    BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

    Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


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  • #2
    Are you lying down? If not, why not?! Sorry to bang my drum, but, the only way it'll go back in is if you release the pressure on it...!
    Or you could try this; Floatation tanks and flotation therapy at The London Floatation Tank Centre.

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    • #3
      There is no such thing as a slipped disc.

      Bulging yes. Burst yes.

      Wayne, get thee to a physiotherapist and get the correct set of exercises to build up the muscle groups round your spine, so they take some (more) of the strain away from the bulging disc.

      I have burst L4 & L5, one went and after the first episode I was walking wonky for months, only had a day or two off for that one, took physio, guess it was a smaller burst than what came a year or so later.
      Had a savage burst of pain picking up a tent peg while kneeling on the lawn, managed to get up and decided on a hot bath, it went big time as I sat down in the bath. Actually screamed, took forty minutes to get out of bath and twelve foot crawling using arms only to be next to my bed. Took a further forty minutes, a GP, injection of morphine in me bum and a walking stick to hook over far side of bed to haul myself into bed.
      I was off work for over three months and the worst bit was sitting in a chair at the office, had to get a special chair and then had months of easing back towards 9-5 hours. While off I had to "potter" around, I could walk for hours no problem, but stand still, nope, sit upright, nope, lie on the floor, fine.

      When I finally saw a specialist with my MRI scan and he said "If you had done the damage today and come in an ambulance, I would have operated tonight to remove the remains of the disc and fused your vertebra. However, you have been coping with it for several months and you walked into my office. ......... I think you have a larger than normal <can't remember the word, but its the hole your spinal cord runs through the bones in>, see here on the mri, you can see the jelly that burst out of the disc pressing your spinal cord against the side of the <buggerhumptermuoph>"

      Sciatica is down to degeneration of the discs, the gap between the two vertebra where the main leg nerve comes out of the spinal cord get shorter and compresses the leg nerve.

      Wayne, trust me, you do not want to go there, get best medical / physiotheray advice you can, starting with a back consultant and an mri scan to check exactly what is going on.
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      • #4
        Peter thanks for the advice.

        I've had my back operated on a few years ago due to herniated discs (three of em), and been to see physios. chiropractors, and am currently seeing an osteopath who has previously sorted me out when I've had "episodes" since.

        Your situation sounds similar to mine - I'd been having problems for months, went to for a MRI and the surgeon suggested that I cancel the trip we had planned to Lapland on the basis that it may cause irreversible damage.

        After the operation to rectify the discs I was up and walking about 2 days later - however, I then developed an infection on the discs (discitus it was referred to on the forms) which kept me off work for 3 months.

        On one occasion, I'd left the house to go to work and was walking to my car (about 20-30ft), I made it half way before collapsing screaming like a banshee with pain. I had to use the umbrella I had with me (it was pouring rain at the time) to get myself onto my knees and it took me ages to get back in the house.

        Another osteopath visit tomorrow - but I'm getting fed up with this, LadyWayne needs me and Bean will be here before we know it and I have to be fighting fit then!!!

        My current party trick is laying on my front and arching my back - which causes a squelch/crack/crunch, which seems to ease things.

        I want to avoid having another op if I can as the surgeon said that if I have to have another op it would mean fusion of the vertebrae resulting in loss of mobility/flexibility.

        Watch this space.
        A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

        BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

        Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


        What would Vedder do?

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        • #5
          gawd poor lad - mine is being a touch naughty at the moment also. The only place I could find no pain, yesterday, was to lie on the hard floor - pain in the doo darrs innit

          I have never experienced the level of pain you and Peter describe and it scares the beejeezus out of me! Mine, (according to last MRI, July 2007) is a bulging L5.

          I do exercises such as you mention Wayne, on ya front raising your top half, it does help me - I also do the same movement when standing, this was given to me via physio.

          I have a pal who is booked to have an op (private, costing around £50k!!) whereby she is having three discs removed/replaced. That is bloody scarey


          I can't do anything to cheer you up lovely lad cos pain is relative and personal but I can send you my bestestest possible thoughts
          ((hugs))
          x
          aka
          Suzie

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          • #6
            Originally posted by piskieinboots View Post
            gawd poor lad - mine is being a touch naughty at the moment also. The only place I could find no pain, yesterday, was to lie on the hard floor - pain in the doo darrs innit

            I have never experienced the level of pain you and Peter describe and it scares the beejeezus out of me! Mine, (according to last MRI, July 2007) is a bulging L5.

            I do exercises such as you mention Wayne, on ya front raising your top half, it does help me - I also do the same movement when standing, this was given to me via physio.

            I have a pal who is booked to have an op (private, costing around £50k!!) whereby she is having three discs removed/replaced. That is bloody scarey


            I can't do anything to cheer you up lovely lad cos pain is relative and personal but I can send you my bestestest possible thoughts
            ((hugs))
            x
            If you could just squeeze a bit 'arder me love, you might just pop it back in!

            Had my op performed via private healthcare, not sure what it cost, but can't imagine it were cheap.
            A simple dude trying to grow veg. http://haywayne.blogspot.com/

            BLOG UPDATED! http://haywayne.blogspot.com/2012/01...ar-demand.html 30/01/2012

            Practise makes us a little better, it doesn't make us perfect.


            What would Vedder do?

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            • #7
              my poor pal doesn't have private healthcare, she has had to raise the money on her property - told about adding insult to injury
              aka
              Suzie

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              • #8
                Sympathise entirely HeyWayne. Been a good while since I last had real bad pain in back but a little pain is always with me (and I don't mean Mrs snuffer).

                Wouldn't dare offer advice re. treatment,exercise etc. that's best left to the profesionals (not Bodie and Doyle), health care profesionals. (Really showing my age there). Just take care and get well soon.
                It is the doom of man, that they forget.

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                • #9
                  Oh poor you. It must sooo frustrating when you want to be buzzing around getting ready for Bean's arrival! Hope you're still managing to give LW's feet the odd massage...

                  The back arching thing is very similar to the bestest thing I've ever been shown by a physio. I don't have chronic back pain but I do have hypermobile joints and I dislocated some ribs a few years ago which was painful, and because I tried to just get on with things and not treat it, led to other problems.

                  The 'exercise' was to stand, and let the chin drop onto your chest. You have really relax into it, not poke your chin out and make the movement as 'soft' as possible. Once your chin is resting on your chest/collarbone, then make sure your shoulders aren't taking any strain, and you should feel your back crack and unfurl in the same way as your arching thing, but more theraputically. It's not glam but it helps to open your mouth slightly and let your jaw slacken (HW The Slack Jawed Yokel!).

                  I've passed it on to DH when his back gets painful and my sis, both of whom get a lot of relief from it.

                  I'm not going to add a disclaimer about not being a health professional! If it hurts too much, you won't do it; it's totally low impact; and you're doing something very similar anyway! Good luck.
                  I don't roll on Shabbos

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