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    There is an old guy at my site, who if he was a younger man I'd have no time for, as he's not very bright. However as he is in his 60's I say hello and given advice when asked and also gave him a load of autumn raspberry plants last year. He does love a freebie, without checking quality etc.

    Anyway a few weeks ago I told him he could have a batch of summer raspberry plants, if he was happy to dig them up himself. He was very happy with that and said he'd dig them up last Saturday. For whatever reason he didn't get around to digging them last week (not a problem), but when I popped down this afternoon, he'd removed them as agreed.

    Unfortunately he'd also took 2 of the 3 remaining bags of horse manure that I had sitting on top of a bed next to where the raspberries were. When we discussed him helping himself to the rasperries, he commented on how lovely my manured beds looked and where did I get it from. (He is not a driver and is not happy to pay for a manure delivery). At no point did we discuss him helping himself to my 3 remaining manure bags, so I was very disappointed to see that he had helped himself and is very likely to deny that he did.

    So I immediately went to his plot and like the fool he is, he'd failed to add it his compost bin or even spread it around on his plot. So my 2 black bin liners of manure were stacked up on his plot, he'd even pinched another bin liner from my plot, as my bags were full of holes (deliberately). In fact it was because they had holes that I immediately knew they had been removed, because he'd left the manure lumps that fell out onto my path, so I noticed the manure lumps before I noticed the rapbberries had gone. When I looked in the new bin liner, yep my holey bags were inside.

    Got my wheel barrow and took them back to my plot and spread the manure (was fresh in Nov) on the old rapberry patch, which was always my intention and why they were sitting on top of the next bed. I did this so he couldn't easily come back and take the bags away again, plus I added some wet leaves on top of the manure. I'll have to use this new bed (scaffold boards at the ready) for some spuds this year, not happy, as I always like to totally clear the ground of stones and break up any clay lumps, prior to me creating a new bed. But now I've decided to give the bed a good going over later in the year, after a crop of spuds or some flowers. Which will be a bigger job than it would have been, as I'll have to remove the manure before I can dig up the earth and stones.

    By the way, my scaffold boards were safe, as he has several waiting to be used on his plot. In fact that was one of the things he asked my advice about, how best to set out his raised beds.

    My plot has had it's fair share of theft and damage, as I'm next to the public footpath and road. But I today as soon as I saw those few bits of horse manure on my rasperry pathway, I just knew that the theft was from a fellow allotmentee.

    You give an inch and they take a mile. Very disappointing.

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    It's sad times we live in, if it ain't nailed down it will walk. He was bright enough to take em!
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    • #3
      An allotment holder next to me was storing about 3 pallets of bricks that were buckshe from a job. "Any chance I can have a few" says old guy further along. "Yeah, take waht you want" says he
      Original owner goes on holiday to find the auld git had carted the whole blummin lot along to his plot when he was away!
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      • #4
        Originally posted by pauco View Post
        It's sad times we live in, if it ain't nailed down it will walk. He was bright enough to take em!
        You don't need much sense to think I want some of that, I'll have it. But it seems you need a little more sense to actually realise that you need to not leave a tell tale signs, like Hansel and Gretel. Plus not leave the evidence sitting on your plot, because you don't think anyone will suspect you and that I wouldn't go straight to his plot to investigate.

        The thing is I was actually on his plot a couple of weeks ago, as he'd asked me to come over and advise him how to prune gooseberries. In fact that's when I told him he could have the raspberries and he asked where I thought best he should plant them. He's only got a small half plot with 2 small sheds on it, and he placed my manure bags, next to a new pathway to his sheds.

        It maybe that he was shattered after transferring the raspberries this morning or was just on a tight time frame, and thought he'd be safe to come back tomorrow morning and do something about his booty.

        I'm looking forward to his denial, but that's will be our last conversation.

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        • #5
          If only you could have swapped it with some contaminated with Aminopyralid eh?

          Thieving old bugger.

          This is why I never ever say 'just take it'; I bag it up, pot it on and leave it on the side - i don't want anyone on my plot.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Snadger View Post
            An allotment holder next to me was storing about 3 pallets of bricks that were buckshe from a job. "Any chance I can have a few" says old guy further along. "Yeah, take waht you want" says he
            Original owner goes on holiday to find the auld git had carted the whole blummin lot along to his plot when he was away!
            It seems some folk just think about their own needs and have no concern how their selfish behaviour affects others. Did the guy go and get his bricks back? Or felt he couldn't because the auld git said "well you did tell me to take what I want, I've just done what you said." That is a perfect example of giving an inch.

            However I've just remembered, mine was taken without consent, so it was theft.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
              If only you could have swapped it with some contaminated with Aminopyralid eh?

              Thieving old bugger.

              This is why I never ever say 'just take it'; I bag it up, pot it on and leave it on the side - i don't want anyone on my plot.
              Ha, I never thought about causing him some damage, I just wanted back what was rightfully mine. Seems I missed a trick there, but then I'd just be stooping to his level. Silly really as I'd have probably have let him have 1 bag if he'd asked. I was all set to giving him a load of seeds too, but that it now, I'll not be giving or offering him anything else.

              Unfortunately I think I shall now have to do as you do, and only allow folk to take things while I'm present. But these days doing any actual digging finishes me off for at least a couple of weeks, so him digging them up himself was to my advantage. He agreed to dig over the patch for me and then I was going to come back and on my hands and knees go through it with a hand rake, to get any stones or weeds etc. After that was done, I would have put up the scaffold boards and just added layers of goodness to create a easy no-dig raised bed.

              At least he only had the opportunity of getting my horse manure, as I have a lady who every couple of months gives me bags of chicken manure, and that I don't share with anyone. I don't usually have bags of manure sitting idle on my plot, but when I spread the other bags out in Nov/Dec, I lost all my energy and found I couldn't lift anymore. As it is, the bags are only filled a little, as my horse lady and chicken lady, know I can only lift small amounts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dottie View Post
                Unfortunately he'd also took 2 of the 3 remaining bags of horse manure that I had sitting on top of a bed next to where the raspberries were..... .
                And I wonder what he would of done if the shoe was on the other foot and you helped yourself to something from his allotment?

                We used to have a similar problem. The allotment next door to us was issued to a 14yr old lad. A nice enough kid but his parents had absolutely no interest in what he was doing up there.

                Paul and I are newbies, but we felt sorry for him and gave him an helping hand and stupidly said for him to use some of our bits until he got himself sorted. Then it became a mission as we were always going up there and not finding what we wanted to use and discovering he never put it back ... grrrr You think you are doing someone a favour!

                Anyway, it ended up with us having to put padlocks on our gate as a couple of times he had even left them open for the bunnies to get a free feed

                He hasnt paid his fees for this season, so us and the guy the other side of the lads plot have taken half each.

                We were up the plot last weekend and the lad turned up to do some gardening (the ground was completely waterlogged) When we asked he what he was doing as it wasnt his plot anymore, he totally went off on one calling us all the names under the sun! He was meant to pay for the allotment in September but claimed they never told him and never received the reminder!!

                On the whole though, the other allotmentees are amazing - there is always one to spoil it
                Scarecrow: Come along, Dorothy. You don't want any of *those* apples.
                Apple Tree: Are you hinting my apples aren't what they ought to be?
                Scarecrow: Oh, no. It's just that she doesn't like little green worms!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zeezeezed View Post
                  And I wonder what he would of done if the shoe was on the other foot and you helped yourself to something from his allotment?
                  Well that the funny thing he's always on about toe-rags nicking stuff, but I always assumed he meant folk off the lottie. I just accept a bit of vandalism and put it in with any other pest control that might be needed, but I really don't expect or accept theft from someone who I actually know on the site.

                  It's a bit like a murder, the Police always look to close to home.

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                  • #10
                    Its not nice when its someone you actually know that does it - its worse than a stranger! What was he thinking

                    There is a massive fine for stealing from allotments arent there? Think Ive seen it posted on another site near where I work. Maybe you should remind him of it - if he has done it to you the chances are he may of done it to others too
                    Scarecrow: Come along, Dorothy. You don't want any of *those* apples.
                    Apple Tree: Are you hinting my apples aren't what they ought to be?
                    Scarecrow: Oh, no. It's just that she doesn't like little green worms!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by zeezeezed View Post
                      Its not nice when its someone you actually know that does it - its worse than a stranger! What was he thinking

                      Yep, it's somehow less disturbing when it's just a random act via stranger, and not expected when your giving them stuff anyway.

                      There is a massive fine for stealing from allotments arent there? Think Ive seen it posted on another site near where I work. Maybe you should remind him of it - if he has done it to you the chances are he may of done it to others too
                      To be honest I don't want to create a load of bad feeling on the site, so I'll just let him know, I know and leave it at that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dottie View Post
                        To be honest I don't want to create a load of bad feeling on the site, so I'll just let him know, I know and leave it at that.
                        He should count himself very lucky that it was not me that he stole from. The amount or value of the missing materials is irrelevant. Stealing is wrong. Stealing from your own kind is a very low down trick. Sorry this has happened to you, I admire your self restraint.

                        Chopper.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by zazen999 View Post
                          This is why I never ever say 'just take it'; I bag it up, pot it on and leave it on the side - i don't want anyone on my plot.
                          i do this too then no-one gets confused or takes the wrong thing
                          The love of gardening is a seed once sown never dies ...

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                          • #14
                            Dottie, are you completely sure he took it with sinister intent and not just a very silly, stupid misunderstanding? You say he's a bit dim, so is it not possible that he saw the bags stacked near the raspberries and thought you'd maybe left them there for him?

                            I know it's a bit of a long shot, but the fact that he didn't steal it all, left a trail and then the actual bags in plan view suggest to me someone who doesn't think they have any thing to hide....

                            You're probably right but it does seem very open for someone who knows they've stolen something.

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                            • #15
                              I got to my plot yesterday to find all of my new long canes about 30 from last year have been taken along with a couple of bags of manure Another plot holder a few down from me has had 30 paving slabs taken.

                              I also retrieved my closhe from amothe plot holders plot

                              Makes me real mad
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