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    Something to get your brains cells going!!!

    Ok, I aplologise in advance for this thought but I thought I'd share it as my OH did late last night and started a big debate when really I wanted to go to sleep!

    Is the Earth heavier now than say a 1 million years ago? Someone he works with throws these random thoughts out there and then watches everyone squirm as they try to argue their thoughts, so he passed it to his fam. and I've passed it to you.
    I don't think it can be as we self generate, produce and burn and stuff leaves into the atmosphere- and the earth creates more resources. I'm no scientist but in my brain that seems right but there are thoughts out there about the earth heating up and this affects density therefore affecting weight.
    Over to you! Any thoughts anyone?
    Gardening forever- housework whenever
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    No answer to that one, but other questions - Why don't sheep shrink in the rain? Who was the first person to put a slice of pig and something out of a birds bum together and make bacon and egg?

    Zebedee
    "Raised to a state of heavenly lunacy where I just can't be touched!"

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    • #3
      Some atmosphere gets lost (apparently the moon pulls a tiny amount, compared to the total, far enough out that it can drift off into space, or something), there are meteorites, the occasional thing gets sent into space by human effort (most of it comes back, one way or another, but there are bits on the moon, something on Mars, etc...). Which makes the bigger difference? Dunno, but it's an interesting question.
      Apart from 'lost' atmosphere, things from 'the space program' and incoming meteorites, I don't think anything else can affect the actual mass....
      Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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      • #4
        Oh shut up LG - go and do some gardening or sommat - it's too early for stuff like this!!!!
        All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
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        • #5
          Wool only shrinks in the wet because it has been stretched first. On the sheep, it is pre-shrunk!
          Flowers come in too many colours to see the world in black-and-white.

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          • #6
            Definite gain.

            Apart from all the space debris (meteorites etc.), there is also a quantity of solar wind particles which collide with the earth (causing the auroras) and various other solar ejections including hydrogen, helium, oxygen and iron. These all occur on a daily basis.

            The amount lost in terms of the heliosphere is effectively balanced out by the amount gained from the sun's ejections (like water flowing through a lake, some flows out, but the same amount flows in), and besides, are we allowed to count something so far away from the earth as being part of its mass?
            The amount of weight lost by launching spacecraft and satellites is also negligible as these don't occur particularly often in comparison to the above and are generally made from as light materials as possible.

            Also, if the heliosphere counts as part of the earth's mass, then all the satellites should too.

            Definite gain.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Glutton4... View Post
              Oh shut up LG - go and do some gardening or sommat - it's too early for stuff like this!!!!
              Now that sounds like a good idea LG If himself had posed that question to me late at night he'd have had a pillow over his head! I'm sure there'll be some very interesting and intelligent answers, but I haven't got one.
              Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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              • #8
                Flipping heck gal- that beats the typical bedtime question in this house!

                ( don't be naughty children...I'm talking about which herbal drink are we having!)

                OK- I'd go with heavier too

                Solar energy must be being converted into something ( energy=mass n all that)
                Space dust and rocks must also be adding to the weight.
                We must be losing something via the atmosphere- but my gut feeling is that we're gaining more than we are using.

                Everything else on/in the planet is being constantly recycled isn't it????
                "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

                Location....Normandy France

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                • #9
                  ooo...err....BUT...the Earth is cooling down isn't it- so it must be losing heat....hmmmm...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nicos View Post
                    ooo...err....BUT...the Earth is cooling down isn't it- so it must be losing heat....hmmmm...
                    Yes, but that would only mean it might contract, not lose mass.

                    Just looked this up, and apparently the earth gains 40,000 metric tons a year in space debris. That's a minuscule amount compared with the total mass of the earth, but it far outweighs anything lost.
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                    • #11
                      OH NO, the sky is going to fall on my head!!!

                      Zebedee
                      "Raised to a state of heavenly lunacy where I just can't be touched!"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OllieMartin View Post
                        Definite gain.

                        Apart from all the space debris (meteorites etc.), there is also a quantity of solar wind particles which collide with the earth (causing the auroras) and various other solar ejections including hydrogen, helium, oxygen and iron. These all occur on a daily basis.

                        The amount lost in terms of the heliosphere is effectively balanced out by the amount gained from the sun's ejections (like water flowing through a lake, some flows out, but the same amount flows in), and besides, are we allowed to count something so far away from the earth as being part of its mass?
                        The amount of weight lost by launching spacecraft and satellites is also negligible as these don't occur particularly often in comparison to the above and are generally made from as light materials as possible.

                        Also, if the heliosphere counts as part of the earth's mass, then all the satellites should too.

                        Definite gain.

                        Errrrr, what Ollie said

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                        • #13
                          Who cares. The earth is flat. If it starts to get too heavy, the folk near the edges will just push sommat overboard!
                          All the best - Glutton 4 Punishment
                          Freelance shrub butcher and weed removal operative.

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                          • #14
                            heavier, there's more people on it

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Glutton4... View Post
                              Who cares. The earth is flat. If it starts to get too heavy, the folk near the edges will just push sommat overboard!
                              I'm sure LG loves 'im but I vote we start by pushing her OH off the edge for starting this palaver in the 1st place


                              (don't worry LG theres normally a turtle or elephant lurking around to catch him)
                              Last edited by lizzylemon; 30-07-2010, 09:35 PM.

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