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23-02-2008, 01:23 PM
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 My daughter .... ... has just got back from skiing trip to america and announced that she is now a vegetarian ...... how does that happen on a skiing trip? and what are the chances of her, at 13 years old, helping me, her darling daddy, to grow the fruit and veg she wants to eat?      |
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23-02-2008, 01:31 PM
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| You don't think much of her choice then?
__________________ Manda. "Wouldn't it be nice For maybe an hour To not have a care." |
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23-02-2008, 01:40 PM
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| My niece became vegetarian at 13 after thinking about animal cruetly for a number of years. As the rest of her family are meat eaters who actually consume very little veg she has now taken on a responsibility for a lot of her own diet and taught herself to cook by means of books and support from various friends and family members. She's now coming up for 17 is very responsible for her diet. Somebody bought her a book called "Vegetables Rock!: A Complete Guide for Teenage Vegetarians" (£6.83 at Amazon) which gives a very good explation of from where to get various nutrients which I would recommend. Encourage her, at her age she is more than capable of making a mature decision and it is very positive that she is making decisions about her diet rather than relying on burgers as so many of her age do! PS - I'm not veggie but support it as a very valid choice, especially as we should all be cutting down on meat intake for environmental and health issues if nothing else!
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23-02-2008, 01:49 PM
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| I think Vegatarians are great...If ever I was in a plane crash I would want it to be with a party of Vegies.... 1.so when the food ran out and we had to eat some one they wouldn't want to eat me 2. the Vegie we killed would be all tender and corn fed. Yummm
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23-02-2008, 02:03 PM
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| SBP - it's her choice so not a problem - i can understand people make that decision cos they've thought about animal cruelty and stuff, but ..... she was on a skiing trip .........?? Alison - cheers for the book suggestion - if she sticks with being a veggie i'll definitely get the book - she can cook - and would be nice if she helps grow her dinner! but i disagree with the environmental argument for vegetarianism - there'd be a whole lot more environment if the vegetarians stop eating it  |
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23-02-2008, 02:17 PM
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 Support your daughter, it may be a 'fad' but I'm sure she'll appreciate your understanding.
__________________ Manda. "Wouldn't it be nice For maybe an hour To not have a care." |
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23-02-2008, 02:29 PM
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| support your daughter in her choice as it may not be arest of her life choice but a so called fad , my partner is vegetarian has been since early teens and she's fit and well and also had children . the only thing i would say is maybe take her to a diet expert to give her advice on the choice she has taken and so aleast you keep her safe by making sure she has a balanced diet. after all when she smells bacon butty or a big mac and has one of them frizbies or here plate called veg burgers she will soon come running back to meat .
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23-02-2008, 02:31 PM
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| p.s i think you got more chance of her going back to meat than getting her hands dirty in the garden
__________________ ---) CARL (---- ILFRACOMBE NORTH DEVON a seed planted today makes a meal tomorrow! www.freewebs.com/carlseawolf now in blog form ! UPDATED 01 / 04 / 08 |
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23-02-2008, 05:33 PM
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| Sell the growing on ethical/ecological grounds, I'm sure she will be keen. There really is nothing like the first taste of your own grown veg. 
__________________ Regards, Jane What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy? The creative adult is the child who has survived. Ursula LeGuin http://www.etribes.com/madderbat |
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23-02-2008, 06:05 PM
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| I became semi-veggie at about the same age (I just never liked the taste or texture of meat or fish). When I left home at 17 I never bought meat again. I'm 38 this year; same dress size as when I left home I've had 20 years of abuse from meat-eaters, despite never trying to convert a single one of them. I don't crave bacon or Big Macs - they just smell of burnt grease to me - but I do cook meat for OH every other day (he's on a healthy diet now and actually prefers my Quorn chicken-style pieces to actual real chicken... and he's lost a stone in four weeks eating my kind of food instead of kebabs and KFCs).
__________________ ~ What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea ~ Gandhi |
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23-02-2008, 06:32 PM
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| Hi Not eaten meat or fish for 23 years here; I just don't like the stuff, never really did. It's not a point of principle or anything but people always think it is, and never tried to start arguments about it but got plenty of abuse for it over the years where there really is no need. I am really just a normal person who doesn't eat meat or fish - I also don't eat mushrooms but there's no word for that. I'd let her get on with it, and encourage her to grow the stuff but their attention spans are so short these days, perhaps it would be better to start her off on some harvesting and she might then get be interested in the actual growing as she gets older?
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23-02-2008, 07:10 PM
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| i'm vegetarian and have been all my life (my parents were), it's all just a case of being aware of things like getting enough protein and iron etc which may not be as prolific in a vegetarian diet. nevertheless, i'm just as healthy and strong, if not moreso, than my meat eating friends... i too, though, have been getting abuse from meat eaters all my life, even from friends and family in the guise of rather insulting "jokes", and i'm not sure why. i have never tried to convert anyone, never insulted anyone elses choice of diet, and always cooked for myself or made do in restaurants... i must say i find it quite discouraging when i try to be as open-minded and easy-going as possible not to get the same respect in return... though i suppose, if i try to put myself in other people's shoes, perhaps being around a vegetarian is threatening? maybe people get defensive because, as zazen said, they think it is a point of principle and therefore they are being judged for not having made the same choice? and the hassle i get is a sort of pre-emptive defense from them, despite me not having said a word?! ok, i'm just rambling now... to return to the original post - i agree with the harvesting idea, maybe look up some veggie recipes using the produce you've grown, and see if she wants to harvest and cook some of it with you? |
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23-02-2008, 09:08 PM
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| well my first thoughts were of lentil soup and sandals ........ but i do know better than that i'll be the first to admit i don't have much of a clue about vegetarian cooking etc - and nor does my daughter - and i will need some help and will definitely be asking for advice etc! she survived the week in america living on a "meat free" diet, where she'd eat everything but the meat (ie, chips) - and somehow i don't think that's a healthy vegetarian diet so i've whipped her down to tescos to pick up something for dinner today and tomorrow and get some ideas for vegetarian cooking - it's helped a bit, it's a start - but took ages we've had cheese and tomato pizza and chips today - just been too hectic today what with her coming home and having a ton of washing to do etc and the sudden announcment that she's turned veggie ......... one thing i did realise is that cream cakes are meat free too so i'm thinking of turning veggie too |
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23-02-2008, 09:14 PM
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| It's an age whe lots of young girls turn veggie, I did at age 14 and still am 20 yrs on! (where did all that tiem go? lol) The thing we me was that we lived opposite a slaughter house and the animals would be unloaded. She may grow out of it, she may not, but it's a typical age to be thinking about the world and what's going on - either that or she has her eye on a chap who is also veggie janeyo |
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23-02-2008, 09:19 PM
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Two_Sheds OH is finding Quorn an acceptable, tasty even, alternative? We use the frozen quorn mince in spag bols & chillis, etc. But we also make versions with lentils too. Quorn make some chunky bits too, the fake 'beef' bits are quite tasty. There are lots of 'meat' alternatives out there, some tastier than others.
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23-02-2008, 10:00 PM
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| no, she's not got her eyes on a boy (yet!) - too busy being interested in music and i got her the quorn mince beef pies (and other stuff) so see how we get on with all that |
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23-02-2008, 11:00 PM
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| lmao, it's no big deal! made me laugh, no big thing about being veggie, it doesn't matter, i have been most of my 38 years, makes me laugh the questions people ask me why i am! got to agree with some posts, i'm veggie (don't preach etc etc) yet people seem to think i'm on some sort of crusade, no, just don't want to eat meat and fish etc thankyou! |
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23-02-2008, 11:51 PM
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| I wanted to be vegi from the age of nine but my parents told me I was too young to make that kind of decision about my diet. (we were on a very tight budget back then so extra protien from other sorces would not have been an option anyway) when I was 11 they gave in, I had £15 pounds a week to do my own shopping but could use family carbs such as rice and potatoes, I could cook from the age of nine and always did the whole familys meals anyway so I'm sure she'll do fine with all the access to the internet and whathave you that kids have these days. as for why the change of heart on the skiing trip? I would say she met a boy she admired. (as for wether you would know or not? your her dad you are definatly the very very last person she would tell if she had a crush, shes your little girl and she knows it, shes embarassed about her new adult feelings as it is, she will have to pluck up courage to tell her best friend whos the same age!!) good luck.
__________________ Yo an' Bob Walk lightly on the earth take only what you need give all you can and your produce will be bountifull |
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24-02-2008, 12:47 AM
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| well her going veggie doesn't bother me at all - it's her choice and i respect it (and me and my son have vowed not to get mcdonalds and sit there going yummmmm at her) for those who don't know, i'm a single parent and the kids have lived with me almost all their lives i'm a pretty good cook and always made sure the kids ate well, had a reasonably balanced diet etc (based on meat / veg / fruit etc) and didn't eat loads of junk food and sweets etc i never learnt properly about nutrition and proteins and carbs and stuff - only vague basics like you get carbs from spuds and proteins from meat and you kinda need some of everything and always wanted to know a lot more so we could all be healthier - never got round to it - but i guess now is a good time to learn cos she's gonna lose something from the lack of meat .... as if i haven't got enough to do already! LOL but if you knew my daughter, you'd have to laugh - she can eat for england - she likes her food - she likes it a lot - we don't have leftovers in this house - she's a human dustbin - her first word as a baby was "hungry" ......... |
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24-02-2008, 07:37 AM
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| My sister announced around the same age that she was going to be a veggie. We were pretty poor as kids so there was no consideration given to her, she just left the meat. She drifted in and out of it for a couple of years before going back to a "normal" diet. Hate to say this FG, but it was over a boyfriend. Good luck mate. I'm sure at 13 you will have more chance of plaiting fog than getting her to help digging etc but stranger things have come to pass ....
__________________ Bob Leponge I dont live in a pineapple but I am trying to grow one |
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24-02-2008, 12:10 PM
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| I stopped eating mean and fish at age 17 and am so so glad I did, it was the most sensible decision I made at that age and i am proud of the 17 year old me who had the courage of my convictions (against cruelty to animals, not against eating animals but 'happy meat' not an option then). I am now just about 34 and fit as a fiddle, have learned about nutrition along the way, never really studied it much in my early days just getting by as a student. not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but the vegetarian society website is a great place to start (The Vegetarian Society) . my OH is a meat eater, though I will not cook meat for him, and doesn't bat an eyelid at meals made with quorn which comes in so many forms these days. lentils are fab. does she like Indian food? there are so many dhal recipes that are easy and nutricious. good luck, I for one think she has made a great decision :-) |
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24-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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Depending on what kind of a veggie she is:
Good luck! It's not that hard, really. Get her to help you with the shopping and cooking . |
