My baby learned to...

that is great news, my 5 month old is just starting to sit up on his own.

Loz

Bless, magic moments.

Awww, those 'first times' are just amazing

Ours is due this Saturday - have a feeling it will be a few days late though (hope so there's a sprint race I want to watch on Saturday ) So got all this to look forward to.

Our granddaughter did the rolling over thing for the first time on Monday. Now she's driving me up the wall as she insists on doing it at every possible opportunity, but then yells because she doesn't like being on her front. I've become her 'childminder' while daughter and son-in-law are at work, along with her big brother who is 2. It's made me realize just what the menopause is for - I'm far too old for this. I've got today off as their dad is working the weekend instead of today and it's such a relief, if only because I'm not standing on Lego bricks every time I walk into the sitting room. Don't know how I did it 24/7 when mine were small.

Its great being a grandparent my grandson is six yrs old now and when he was a baby i looked after him every Friday and took him to a mum and toddler group where they thought he was mine. The best bit was handing him back !!!! He has chicken pox at the mo so might be looking after him next week when the kids go back to school.

Aw! That's so lovely!
Wish my hubby would consent to procreation; unfortunately is still of the mindset that says "Nobody ever has anything positive to say about having babies - why do they take a leap of faith and why oh why do they do it more than once?" I've tried telling him the positives are things like you've all just said, but I'm not sure that those positives out-weigh the negatives that are sleepless nights/no time to yourself etc.
Feeling depressed now!

Waffler

It's important that your hubby wants kids as much as you. My dad never wanted kids and couldn't wait until his daughters left home .

That depends on whether the 'nobodies' are his bloke mates who are disgruntled that they are no longer no1 in their wives eyes!!

How old is he and have you been together long? I think most blokes end up getting broody eventually. Normally when nephews/neices come along, or even mates kids. (i'm a bloke by the way).

Sorry! I seem to have hijacked this post now with my problems!

Kirsty b - no it's not particularly his mates saying stuff - it's more general than that: friends, family... everyone "Only get to sleep for 2/3 hours at a time" "Life? What's that?" those sorts of comments, but what really gets him is when they then say "Still, it's an amazing experience" etc. He just doesn't 'get' it.

Clay Garden - unfortunately I'm not so sure. We'll have been together 13 years this summer and married last summer. I've never made any bones about the fact that I definitely want children, and he's always said 'one day' kind of thing. It's only recently (with my 30th birthday approaching and me therefore pushing a bit more perhaps) that he's really said he just can't see the appeal. To be honest, he ended up in tears about it because he doesn't want to hurt me and our friends are on at him - partly in jest - because they know I want kids and that it's him stopping it from happening right now. I actually got really scared because I think he may be a bit depressed, so I've not mentioned it since. Anyway, I'll be 30 this year and he'll be 37. Now I know these days people have children later and later and I can kind of see that if you don't actually 'settle down' until later, but we've lived together forever and it seems to be the next logical step, otherwise what's it all for?

I'm sorry I've really gone off on one now. I'm just feeling sorry for myself. Had a text today to say my friend's just had her baby, and it's just made me wonder whether I'll ever be in that situation.

Still, at least the rain will help the weeds to grow, which will keep me busy!

By the way CG, our friends have been having babies for a few years, and to be honest my husband just finds that they take up the little time we have with our friends, with bedtimes and interrupting mealtimes etc.
Is there any hope at all?

Even though I loved my husband dearly, I divorced him when he wouldn't commit to children. I could not imagine a life without them so it had to be done. I am now with someone else (unmarried and we have 2, and a third being planned, but don't tell him, lol).

I understand the whole 'it will change my life' argument, but I counter back with ' YES for the better!'

Your OH may have many more years to father children (look at Des O'Connor - YUK) but you may not. Sorry to be blunt. Post 30 the risks increase and fertility decreases and it only gets worse. I am almost 34 and had first one at 30 and second one last year. Yes people do have them later but the risks do increase. It mayenot be as simple in a few years to just say 'ok, lets do it now', it might be too late. Noone knows til they try I guess.

If it means so much to you then the least your OH can do is to give you a timeframe for having a child and if he can't and he KNOWS how much it means to you then if he were mine he would have to go! I was all set to go off to the sperm bank when met my partner and would have done it too.

janeyo

I fell prgnant with Lauren when Steve and I had only been together for about four months. Having already had 3 boys he was not happy about it at all and did ask if I would consider getting rid. I honestly thought about it and then decided that I wanted my baby, with or without him.
Lauren is the light of my life, and having a baby so quickly hasn't been without difficulties relationship-wise. We didn't have time to get to know each other properly before she came along etc etc.
I've never made any secret of the fact that I wanted a second child, he didn't and made no secret of telling me that. I had an implant thingy, but that was causing me trouble so when I had it removed he went for the snip almost immediately, and broke my heart.
Although I have accepted now that there will be no more for me, it still hurts sometimes, (especially when people close to me announce pregnancies) but on the plus side, I have a beautiful, healthy daughter (you guys know her as Lauren b) who has enriched my life in ways I never dreamed possible.
Now she is getting older, Steve and I are getting more time together and are making plans for our wedding next year.