Charges for taking rubbish to the tip

**rana** · 22-03-2011, 06:56 AM

I presume Devon council will use the revenue to fund the extra cost of clearing the excess fly tipping that will now ensue.

**Bigmallly** · 22-03-2011, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by rana View Post

I presume Devon council will use the revenue to fund the extra cost of clearing the excess fly tipping that will now ensue.

Was thinking exactly the same.

**TonyF** · 22-03-2011, 07:49 AM

We have charges against the communal budget every time that we visit the tip (dechetterie) here, two within easy driving distance and they charge slightly different prices but they're not cheap tho they are both beautifully kept, really well looked after and have superb facilities.

There are also serious restrictions in France for when you can have a bonfire (or bbq and other open flame things) and lots of supplementary laws about having them within 50 metres of a house, woods etc. So in the summer, you're actively encouraged to go to the tip, no matter what the cost is to the commune.

We have a rather special place here where there was an old duck feeder pond, concrete base, very deep and long/wide which makes a good fire pit so even tho it's not as environmentally friendly, we are now burning all our burnable wood rubbish from the hedges and woods, all the rest of the rubbish is still going to the tip.

And France, the Dordogne in particular, has one of the highest recycling/bio dumping rates in EUROPE.

**Patchninja** · 22-03-2011, 08:25 AM

Our tips aren't expensive according to the local tax bill and the people there are so helpfuland as Tony says, here they're clean and easy to use. Here, as an individual,, you aren't charged anything.
When I've used the one close to my Mum's home in England, it was like a commando exercise just to get into the place and get rid of some rubbish without being berated by some effing and blinding, unhelpful employee.

**northepaul** · 22-03-2011, 09:08 AM

It will lead to fly tipping, no question.
I sometime wonder whether councils have completely lost the plot - why charge the very people who want to be sensible? Its the others they should target.

**jackie j** · 22-03-2011, 09:19 AM

If you go on to the council Website you can see what they will charge for. Fly tipping will be back, but if enough people complain they will revise the charges.

**bearded bloke** · 22-03-2011, 09:24 AM

How strange,is that a private landfill site or is it council run ? surely your domestic waste is covered by your council tax

there is a scheme here for domestic waste in trailers here whereby permits are posted (10 a year max) to the registered address of the towing vehicle free of charge (after filling in an application form),to prevent misuse by traders the driver & car details (colour & reg #) are on the numbered ticket & the attendant writes a brief description of contents on the rear.

**jackie j** · 22-03-2011, 09:29 AM

I thought it was private but all Devon Recycling centres will be charging for certain things so anyone doing up there house and getting rid of the rubbish, including sanitry ware etc will be charged.
Like I said any Locals should take a look at the Devon Council website for moe information about the charges and complain.

**WillyNelson** · 22-03-2011, 10:21 AM

You can understand it for things that require careful processing to reclaim/dispose of (asbestos, tyres, gypsum based plaster) but for general household recycling, rubbish & garden waste surely the cost will be reclaimed either by revenue from the reclaimed materials or via the council tax.

We've just had a new Household Waste Recycling Facility open up to replace the old 'chuck it all over the wall' tip. Lots of space, designated areas for pretty much anything and (so far) very helpful staff.

**Mikey** · 22-03-2011, 10:42 AM

Seems mad to me, I'm not sure it will have a massive impact on fly tipping though. The kind of people who are environmentally conscious enough to happily take their waste to a recycling centre would probably also suffer the cost of paying for the privilege. They aren't likely to start fly tipping.

Our tip has very helpful staff if you are pretty and female, everyone else has to struggle.

**snohare** · 22-03-2011, 11:15 AM

I volunteer with a local charity that takes donations of items being taken to the local landfill site, sorts them out in containers onsite and then takes them to a charity shop to sell. The local council - and in fact central government who pay us by weight for what we divert from landfill - are desperate to reduce the soaring fines now being imposed by the EU for the UK never doing anything to reduce landfill waste for over 20 years. It is just mind-boggling what people throw away - pristine washing machines, mint condition exercise equipment, functioning electrical items, antiques, heirlooms, first edition books, artworks - often just because they are going into nursing homes, or want the latest style. Massive quantities... for the first while it just does your head in thinking of it.
Seems to me though, that the problem is there are too many factories churning out huge amounts of tat that nobody really needs, and which often fails or turns out to be a bad idea. As long as they make money and don't have to pay for disposal of their products, and as long as consumers don't have to pay extra at purchase - as long as that link in the chain of accountability is not there - there will be agricultural land being replaced with rat-infested crap.

No charges hereabouts except for businesses, but in NE Scotland we are running out of landfill space very rapidly - not looking forward to that day.

**chris** · 22-03-2011, 11:16 AM

Yup... I dropped a cubic metre bag into the green waste tip as tre hir (or wahtever it is near caerphilly mikey) I went to tell the folks, and they just grunted at me. Said they couldn't be bothered to remove it, and taht it'd just get shredded up anyway along with all the waste. I was quite shocked - at this site they don't give a rats backside about recycling.

Before I've taken a tree to the tip, and both green wastes were full - and they said put it in general waste - I asked what would happen to it - "landfill".

crazy.

**Mikey** · 22-03-2011, 11:22 AM

I think that is the general response around here Chris, was it trecenydd or trethomas?. Not that it matters they are all the same. I remember asking what to do with plastic once there and was told general waste, I was shocked, there's good money in the right plastic.

**Hilary B** · 22-03-2011, 03:00 PM

Our nearest recycling centres (apart from the one yet to open, which is even closer, and looks similar from outside) have loads of enormous skips for assorted products. There is ONE for 'landfill' and I've never seen it nearly as full as the 2 'greenwaste' skips adjoining. Paper, tins and unbroken glass get collected from home, greenwaste can be, but you pay for the extra bin. There are small skips for card and plastic bottles (only the right sort....) in the supermarket car park (which I reckon is where they belong, that is where all the plastic and cardbors originates, and how hard is it to take the empty packaging back when buying more?)

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