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  • Breadmakers; are they the devil?

    Just a quick question. As a maker of bread in the old fashioned way, I hate bread makers despite never having owned or used one.

    To those who have I ask this: are they the devil?

    I can't help but feel the bread will be inferior, so please do tell...
    The Idiot Gardener
    Five acres of idiocy: an idiot's journey to the heart of smallholding darkness!

  • #2
    Not at all- you can go half way and mix the dough and then put it in the oven as you would normally do. The nice thing is that you can have a fresh loaf ready when you get home from work or first thing in the morning if you buy one with a delay timer on it.

    You also don't need to hang around waiting it to rise and knocking it back. MUCH easier- and just as tasty- just carry on using the flour/oil/butter/seeds etc you'd normally use.

    ...go on...you know you want one!!
    "Nicos, Queen of Gooooogle" and... GYO's own Miss Marple

    Location....Normandy France

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    • #3
      Every loaf I bake is different to the previous one. I use a food mixer for the kneeding bit and never used a 'bread maker' can only think it would take away the fun. Each batch is a new challenge and I would hate to have it foolproof.
      I look forward to other opinions.

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      • #4
        I have one and don't actually cook the bread in it any more. I use it just for the mixing and proving then take the dough out and make bagettes/rolls/bloomer - whatever we fancy!
        I found if the bread is cooked in the breadmaker it comes out really heavy and doughy..yuk (even after trying loads of different recipes) , but some people like it that way!
        I have today made a hot cross bun/loaf in it today though and it came out brilliantly

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        • #5
          It's not that fun kneading with a dodgy elbow; I can tell you.

          I use the breadmaker to do the mixing, then take it out and shape it by hand; let it rise then bake.

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          • #6
            You don't need a breadmixer for proving. I put my dough in the fridge overnight. The long prove helps the flavour.

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            • #7
              Nope - they're brilliant. I make bread by hand too, usually make pizza dough once a week etc., but would never be without the breadmaker. We use it almost everyday and the bread's fab. Not inferior at all - different, but not inferior.
              I don't roll on Shabbos

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              • #8
                The downside is when they go wrong. After several years of use (twice every weekend), the paddle assembly has sheared off which means buying a new pan at a cost of ~£65. A new one costs £89 (Panasonic) and comes with a dispenser (current one hasn't got that). So the option is to buy a new one, but somehow that seems a terrible waste of materials when all I need is a new pan. Why can't they make the spares less expensive?

                Anyway, I made some bread the old-fashioned way using a food processor for the mixing and it came out fine.
                Last edited by Capsid; 10-01-2010, 04:23 PM.
                Mark

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Capsid View Post
                  The downside is when they go wrong. After several years of use (twice every weekend), the paddle assembly has sheared off which means buying a new pan at a cost of ~£65. .
                  That seems like an awful lot! We need a new pan for our Morphy Richards one and all the spares are under a tenner from Amazon - pans are about £9.00. Seems odd that there's such a huge difference?

                  Tesco did one last year for £30 that won some excellent reviews - nice cheap replacement for you!
                  I don't roll on Shabbos

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                  • #10
                    We use our breadmaker every 2 or 3 days, almost always with the overnight timer on so that we have fresh bread for sandwiches on that day. Whilst I have no problems with making bread by hand, there is no way I would get up early enough in the mornings to have a fresh loaf by 6.30 in the morning. Re the heaviness thing, it depends on several factors including your recipe / ratios but I've found the main difference being the make of machine. My friend has one which makes what I consider to be quite rubbish bread which is very heavy (she seems to like it OK though so not a problem) whereas ours is much lighter (Panasonic). It will do all sorts of different loaf types and has a dispenser thing in the top but I find that 99% of the time we just do a 50 / 50 white / wholemeal loaf as it suits most of our general needs.

                    Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                    Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                    • #11
                      Magic. We (ie my wife) use ours 2 or 3 times per week. The dry ingredients and water get put in at breakfast time and by about mid-day we turn out a loaf ready for lunch time. There are occaisional failures but very few.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Alison View Post
                        We use our breadmaker every 2 or 3 days, almost always with the overnight timer on so that we have fresh bread for sandwiches on that day. Whilst I have no problems with making bread by hand, there is no way I would get up early enough in the mornings to have a fresh loaf by 6.30 in the morning. Re the heaviness thing, it depends on several factors including your recipe / ratios but I've found the main difference being the make of machine. My friend has one which makes what I consider to be quite rubbish bread which is very heavy (she seems to like it OK though so not a problem) whereas ours is much lighter (Panasonic). It will do all sorts of different loaf types and has a dispenser thing in the top but I find that 99% of the time we just do a 50 / 50 white / wholemeal loaf as it suits most of our general needs.
                        Also, despite the fact it cost about £80 when we bought it, we've now had it over 3 years so I'm at about 2p per loaf so I can't complain.

                        Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

                        Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

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                        • #13
                          My daughter has one (a new one since her OH threw the paddle out with the ruined bread in the old one - he'd apparently forgotten to add the liquid to the mix). Her bread seems a bit heavy to me and I don't think I would want one. There's only me in the house and I don't eat a lot of bread.

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                          • #14
                            I agree with everything Alison said above.

                            For one loaf a week, I also think it's cheaper to make in the machine than heating the whole oven for an hour
                            All gardeners know better than other gardeners." -- Chinese Proverb.

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                            • #15
                              without doubt it would be cheaper to buy a Waitrose loaf at 3.30pm on a Sunday. But if you want a loaf that your grandkids come round just for a slice of best stick to authentic arm wrestling homemade.

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