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    I was quiet last week and here’s why, was recovering…. I’m recounting this sage for two reasons, a) to see how common it might be (there are some mentions of Anaphylactic Shock revealed by a Search on the site, mainly connected to wasp stings) and b) as a warning. I unexpectedly suffered it last weekend, I had no idea I was prone to it, the hospital said I’d had a narrower escape than I realized. I’m thinking it might be sensible to warn others because many gardening activities may put you more at risk than you otherwise might be.

    Anaphylactic Shock is basically an extreme allergy reaction. Many people suffer allergic reactions and learn to live with them…e.g. various forms of hay-fever and asthma are common and may be quite disabling, there may be foods, pets or even fabrics you avoid, some (including me) may seem more prone to insect bites than others and regularly apply the anti-bug spray or always have Anthisan at the ready. At the extreme end are individuals with nut allergies that can be life-threatening or those persons that carry epi-pens (self-injecting adrenalin) to overcome cases of dire emergency through, for example, wasp or bee stings.

    The Anaphylactic Shock is at that end of the scale but the first time it happens you’ve no idea what’s happening or what to do… - or at least I didn’t. And as it develops you’re likely to be in a somewhat confused state about the symptoms. In my case after a day’s gardening (mainly cutting back Hawthorn and Russian Vine hedging) I got some itches on wrists and back of neck and I just thought Damn Insects and applied Anthisan… But no effect this time, more itches, raised red blotches and then quite violent itchy weals, lips sensitive and swelling to a point where couldn’t drink and then couldn’t easily breathe through the mouth…. And that’s the real danger because if it then spreads to tongue, throat or nasal passages without immediate professional assistance you can basically suffocate.

    Well it didn’t quite happen this time so I survived but I’m told it’s more likely to be worse if there’s a next time (because responses are generally faster and further each repeated occasion) so the moral is IF THE LIPS BECOME GROSSLY SWOLLEN GET HELP IMMEDIATELY (999 or whatever). Don’t wait to see if it gets even worse (which is what I did) because that doesn’t necessarily happen slowly but can happen in a few minutes. The body takes such instant and huge response to what it perceives as an allergy threat that it actually runs the risk of destroying itself… so be warned, get help early!

    Once forewarned, as I am now, there are easily available measures you can take which are basically daily doses of anti-histamine or, when it threatens, a big hit of anti-histamine (Piriton and Benadryl seem to be two over-the-counter regular ones) to delay or prevent the onset of Anaphylactic Shock; or in extreme cases you may be prescribed an epi-pen.

    Not to be alarmist, I just think it should be more common knowledge than it appears to be at present and hope by telling the tale I can make others aware of what to do for the best if it suddenly happens to them for the first time: the sure sign is grossly swelling lips… get help!
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    My throat closed up within 20 mins of being stung the last time by a bee(african bee) so yeah it's scary ain't it and like you say, the reactions happen quicker each time. Needless to say , I cause great amusement for the family when I see a bee, I make a statue look like it's movement incarnate
    Never test the depth of the water with both feet

    The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory....

    Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

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    • #3
      Epi pen maybe for the future?!?
      Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

      Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RedThorn View Post
        I cause great amusement for the family when I see a bee, I make a statue look like it's movement incarnate
        LOL...good to have a sympathetic family, eh? I was by myself but friends have subsequently said "If I'd been there I would have taken you to hospital" (not sure they'd be so keen on a mumbled phonecall at 2 a.m.....) Sounds like you should have an epi pen within reach, RT, as these critters don't necessarily announce themselves but might be lying doggo...
        Anyone know if (dead) Russian vine has got some toxic quality? A farmer told me today that sawing cypresses can cause breathing difficulties for some and best advised to wear a dust mask.... ?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by VirginVegGrower View Post
          Epi pen maybe for the future?!?
          Possibly, VVG... got to have another check-up now I've finished the anti-hist course! What I really need to know is what caused it (I'm none too keen on going near that hedge!! )
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          • #6
            Scary stuff. Glad you came through it. Most of the summer I tend to take a daily anti histamine for exzema. It's not the sort of thing that you'd want to happen if you were alone on an allotment site though.

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            • #7
              Could be anything. You'll probably never know. I went to the US on business many years ago and face, eyes, lips swelled and everything went cherry red. I worked for a large corp and they had their own medical staff. They jabbed me in the leg with an Epipen (that's how I know of them). Swelling started to subside within minutes. They kept me seated with a Dr for half an hour before they let me back to the hotel. They reckoned it was a spider bite - I had an itch at the side of my eye, the only sign I had. I never felt a thing.
              It was both frightening and bewildering.
              Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better...Albert Einstein

              Blog - @Twotheridge: For The Record - Sowing and Growing with a Virgin Veg Grower: Spring Has Now Sprung...Boing! http://vvgsowingandgrowing2012.blogs....html?spref=tw

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              • #8
                Just something to bear in mind, dunno about now, but epi-pens used to only have a 1 year life before you needed to replace it - hence why I stopped years ago replacing

                EDIT: Doh forgot to say in first post, glad you pulled through
                Last edited by RedThorn; 05-03-2012, 02:18 AM.
                Never test the depth of the water with both feet

                The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory....

                Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.

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                • #9
                  Scary stuff Bazza - good to hear you're ok!

                  I'm given to allergies, I was pretty much born with asthma and eczema, thankfully the eczema has all but gone but not the asthma.

                  I'm allergic to cats - I have two (I know, I know!) my theory is that exposure to them will 'toughen' me up to them.

                  I'm extremely allergic to walnuts and pecans but not the usual peanuts - odd eh!

                  When gardening, more times than not, I get a rash from who knows what.

                  I've never considered taking anything because it's been more annoying than concerning - maybe I should re-think that one.
                  aka
                  Suzie

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                  • #10
                    Glad to hear you're fully recovered, you obviously had a lucky escape and thank you for sharing your experience.
                    Granny on the Game in Sheffield

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                    • #11
                      could well be that although you had a violent reaction to a scratch from your hawthorns, it may be that you aren't allergic to the hawthorns themselves but to something on the thorns. Could be algae or birds dirt, accumulated muck out of rain, mould etc etc. It wouldn't be the worst idea to have a word with your GP to see if he can line up some allergy testing for you. It's dangerous enough having an allergy you can identify but a bit like Russian roulette with an unidentified allergy. This is potentially your life you are talking about.

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                      • #12
                        It's an important thing to warn people about bazzaboy. It must have been quite a frightening experience.

                        This has happened to me and I don't know what sets it off. Last time I ended up at the hospital for an injection. I was told to keep anti-histamine tablets in the house ready for next time. I'm lucky in that it normally takes an hour for the red blotches to spread so can take preventative action. The last time I woke up to find myself covered in blotches and they had already spread to my face.

                        The midges love me and any insect bite brings me out in a red weal. I tried everything to ward the monsters off but nothing seems to work
                        Last edited by Peppermint; 05-03-2012, 08:10 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I'm the same as Peppermint when it comes to insect bites. Even a wee midgy bite will be a huge red weal within minutes of being bitten. I've had one really bad incident, more than twenty years ago now, and that was caused by a horsefly bite. It bit me on the knee and the swelling caused my knee to about 4 times it's usual size, swollen all down the leg too. The Army medics (my BH was personal chef to a Forces big wig) were worried about toes as the circulation was going. They jabbed me in the thigh with something and the swelling started to go, but took about a week in BMH Hanover before they would let me home.

                          I was warned then that bites on the face, head, neck or chest could be fatal. A few months later I started to get hayfever very badly and they think the bite triggered it. I don't think I've been bitten since but as I take regular anti-histamines it's hard to tell.

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                          • #14
                            Bazza, What a horrible experience. I'm so glad you've recovered and I hope and pray that it doesn't happen to you again. Thanks for sharing it and for the warning.
                            I suspect that if I had grossly swollen lips my friends would think it was Botox gone wrong!

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                            • #15
                              Although I didn't think I reacted badly to anything I had a bad reaction to eating a handful of almonds last week, went quite off balance and had to hold onto furniture. Aside from that our allotment is huge so i hardly ever see anyone except weekends so i keep a mobile phone in my pocket ,not my jacket or shed, as you never know when you might need it. I once fell over a boundary rope and although i wasn't hurt I was shaken up and it could have been worse, only problem is gates are always locked.
                              Get checked out for allergies, simple proceedure and worth doing

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