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Old 20-06-2007, 01:20 PM
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Sorry but i just have to have a rant for a moment to get this out of my system.
My son has just been given a detention at school for apparently inpersonating a foreigner.
Apparently now if you take off the voice of an irish, american or any non english person you are being Racist. What the hell is going on !!

Wonder if it works both ways. If a Foreigner talks in an english accent can we claim the same thing.
Wonder if perople like Rory Bremner are aware of this !!

Sorry again but i am so mad
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Old 20-06-2007, 01:46 PM
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Absolutely bonkers!

I'd be up there like a shot. My wife is a teacher and even she can't believe some of the latest things.

You couldn't make it up!

We really are beset by politically correct double standard neanderthals these days!
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Old 20-06-2007, 02:04 PM
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No way, that's ridiculous. Why aren't we teaching children real standards, respect, morals - political correctness gone mad doesnt even get close. No wonder you're fuming Deb, I'm with you!
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Old 20-06-2007, 05:15 PM
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The politically correct brigade are ruining lives right, left and center. Why can't people go get on with their lives instead of making up nonsense about who is going to be offended without asking the relevant people if they will be offended? When we lived in the States, there were 2 'dark skinned' people for each of us - they refer to themselves as black or negro and wondered why we avoided using those terms to describe them. I am white and Scottish, if someone yells hey whitey jock at me I am more likely to laugh than be insulted!! Maybe time for us to start shouting that we are offended by being constantly told what to do/say/think.

Okay, rant over.
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Old 20-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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My friends grandson was in his first week at school and he wanted to tell his teacher about a little girl in his class being new couldnt remember her name so he said the black girl (the only black girl in the class) and he was excluded what the difference between saying the black girl or saying the girl with blond hair
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Old 20-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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We have two fabulous old west indian gents on our site.

One of them always addresses me as "White man". In no way does he mean offence and I certainly dont take any. I always call him "Mr" in respect of his age. Our different colours dont even warrant notice and we swap seeds and ideas.

But if we worked for local government!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it's just utter madness, have they nothing better to do!

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What annoys me about all this is that it takes the attention away from REAL racial abuse by focusing on trivial things which are not intended to be insulting.
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Not on a racial origin theme - but got an even more ludicous 'detention' for you - and the get out clause! Well....

My friends son has managed to earn himself a place at the local grammer school (well done him) and the rules are somewhat sharp. Generally this is a good thing and my friend has no problem with it but...

The lad brought home a standard begging letter from the school, which his parents read and decided not to contribute to, for various reasons, not least, that the school had 'required' as part of his admission that the parents took out a direct debt for a minimum £10/month (recommended £30) 'voluntary contribution'.

When the lad could not hand in a cheque the following morning he was given a full detention - which to explain, means being kept back after school for an hour, missing the coach home (£350 per term) and causing his parents to have to drive to the school (5 miles and no direct bus link). West Wickham to Orpington if that means much to anyone.

My friend was livid as you might well imagine! She mentioned the problem in passing to a member of her family who immediately insisted in writing a cheque for the said school fund.

On the day of the detention, the lad reported as required and was asked if he had a cheque to give in. On replying in the affirmative and handing over the cheque he was told to go home. No detention was to be served.

My friend is now even more livid!

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Not on a racial origin theme - but got an even more ludicous 'detention' for you - and the get out clause! Well....

My friends son has managed to earn himself a place at the local grammer school (well done him) and the rules are somewhat sharp. Generally this is a good thing and my friend has no problem with it but...

The lad brought home a standard begging letter from the school, which his parents read and decided not to contribute to, for various reasons, not least, that the school had 'required' as part of his admission that the parents took out a direct debt for a minimum £10/month (recommended £30) 'voluntary contribution'.

When the lad could not hand in a cheque the following morning he was given a full detention - which to explain, means being kept back after school for an hour, missing the coach home (£350 per term) and causing his parents to have to drive to the school (5 miles and no direct bus link). West Wickham to Orpington if that means much to anyone.

My friend was livid as you might well imagine! She mentioned the problem in passing to a member of her family who immediately insisted in writing a cheque for the said school fund.

On the day of the detention, the lad reported as required and was asked if he had a cheque to give in. On replying in the affirmative and handing over the cheque he was told to go home. No detention was to be served.

My friend is now even more livid!
That is absolutely disgusting. Verging on blackmail, and abuse of children. Please contact the relevant authorities - not just the school staff, contact the board of governors (they all have them) and the Local Education Authority. I am sure they cannot legally do this!!!!!!!
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Old 21-06-2007, 12:02 AM
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Surely the right place to get it off your chest would be face to face with the school.
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Old 21-06-2007, 12:14 AM
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Surely the right place to get it off your chest would be face to face with the school.

Letting off stem here just gets every right wing reactionary reacting.

Beg pardon, Jonty, but I do not recall "right-wing reactionaries" being in favour of Free Education or am I wrong about Bevans party membership?
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Hi,
Sorry but i just have to have a rant for a moment to get this out of my system.
My son has just been given a detention at school for apparently inpersonating a foreigner.
Apparently now if you take off the voice of an irish, american or any non english person you are being Racist. What the hell is going on !!

Wonder if it works both ways. If a Foreigner talks in an english accent can we claim the same thing.
Wonder if perople like Rory Bremner are aware of this !!

Sorry again but i am so mad
Debbie
Can you be absolutely positive that you are hearing all the facts off the matter, not defending anyone but until you hear the schools side then you may well end up looking foolish. If it is the case though (and I wouldnt be surprised) I bet it was instigated by a goodie goodie white honky (can I say that) .

Its ginger haired people that I feel sorry for, they receive constant abuse but is anything done about it, but have you noticed that almost all the heroes in fantasy books are quite often red haired or ginger haired, we must be special.

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Old 21-06-2007, 05:53 AM
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No hope for us really is there? In the Middle East where I spent 10 'happy' years all non muslims are called Infidels!
In the deep south of the USA us honkys are called 'crackers' - because we used to crack the whips in the slave plantations. And we called the blacks 'boy'. Someone ought to remind those lily livered untravelled do-gooders there is a real world out there. Humour exists at all levels and if a joke offends - tough. Live with it.
Oh well, we will appease everyone and forget our own 4000 years of eroded culture.

Rant over.
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Surely the right place to get it off your chest would be face to face with the school.
If that was to me Johnty, the school in question is in another county, my kids don't and in fact can't go there (Boys school - I have girls) and my friend sent in a stinger of a letter to the headmaster - all in parlimentary English (she spells better than I do, which would not be hard!) to which she has yet to get a reply - the letter was sent over two months ago.

As to can they do that - well they have! It is as Rustylady says, blackmail of the first order, utterly disgusting and a terrible thing to teach the children - that extortion works.

Please bear in mind though that although my friend is up in arms over this, she finds herself alone - none of the other parents are making waves - they just bleet happily and continue being sheep!

And THAT is what has me hacked off!
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Hi,
Sorry but i just have to have a rant for a moment to get this out of my system.
My son has just been given a detention at school for apparently inpersonating a foreigner.
Apparently now if you take off the voice of an irish, american or any non english person you are being Racist. What the hell is going on !!

Wonder if it works both ways. If a Foreigner talks in an english accent can we claim the same thing.
Wonder if perople like Rory Bremner are aware of this !!

Sorry again but i am so mad
Debbie

Debbie, might I ask what variety of foreigner he impersonated? I'm sure it makes no differene to the school, but were the boys paying a game or was he having a joke on a friend that back fired?

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As I understand racism it is treating someone differently due to his or her race. I wonder how this definition can be applied.
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I heard recently of a little boy in INFANT school charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate!!! Also I read not long ago of a school lollipop man berated for shaking hands with children at his crossing, he was told his actions could be "mis-interpeted" as what for Heavens sake!!
Its no wonder children today have little innocence.
They must of course be protected against the evil-doers of this world but is this the way to go about it? To teach them that any innocent and friendly gesture is to be regarded with suspicion.
When I was a small child in Primary school a dear(and probably lonely)man would occasionally walk past the playground and hand out sweets,we called him the sweetie man and flocked to the school gate(this was more than fifty years ago,but has human nature changed so much)
I think of this kind and lonely soul each time I hear of someone being arrested for sitting in a park and watching children play,or seeing a parents agressive attitude should someone dare smile at their small child in a supermarket.
I can also remember being able to call your dog "Nigger" or "Darkie" without risk of arrest.
Should we start an anti-P.C. movement to counteract the ridiculous trend of todays politics? Or should we just laugh out loud and in public at these silly laws?!!!!
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To all who hat political correctness (none more than me, I'll wager) how about this for a perectly, politically correct Christams greetin? I claim no originality for it, but have kept it.
Please accept, with no obligation, implied or implicit, best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non – addictive, gender neutral celebration of the Winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with all due respect to and for the religious/secular traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all.



May you have a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year of 2007, but not without all due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make Britain great, (but not implying that Britain is necessarily greater than any other country, or is the only ‘BRITAIN’ in the Western Hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual orientation of the wishee.



By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.



This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period not exceeding 1 year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday (or other) greeting, whichever comes first, ,and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher, or his executors in perpetuity. Your statutory rights are not effected.
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Yes. A perfect tongue in cheek message for all,though I would prefer"Happy Christmas" in this Happy Christian society and if this offends you either ignore it or bugger off to where it wont.
I expect to be arrested at any time!!
Seriously,I dont care who worships what or who believes in what or whom,but I do care about freedom of speech(remember that)and the fact that our society will be taken over,stealth by stealth by a religion that I cannot name-but begins and ends with M?-and that Christian folk(with a capital or small C)should be aware.What do you think?
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I usually try to avoid them
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