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Old 09-04-2008, 10:24 PM
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I know, promised myself one as soon as I gave up work, but this one doesn't like my cat!

Sarzwix, that's a good suggestion as long as the dog warden did a 'found wandering on the street' lecture to them, they know where I live

I know why she comes back, first visit was last summer when we had a day time party, house and garden full of food and drink - dog paradise
No worries there Nell, they won't say it was you reporting if you ask them not to. I know dog wardens get a bad name, but usually they do it because they like dogs not the other way round. Or try the RSPCA, they will do the same thing - bit of a lecture about the law, but the dog warden is more likely to have the time to do it
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:26 PM
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I'm a bit soft and would have to keep taking it back. I would feel so guilty if the one time I shouted at it and shoved it back it got hit by a car.

Maybe it just likes your garden because you don't shout at it?!

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I think the party had something to do with it, lots of drooling people shoving food at her and making a big fuss (ooos a lovely dog then, oo is, 'es oo are) - probably thinks it's worth a try every now and then, never know your luck in a raffle!

But I couldn't just shove it over the wall and trust to luck - will try the secret warden route - I understand the law has changed recently and the council deal with strays now, will double check.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:58 PM
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Indeed the police no longer deal with strays. its the council...so probably only every other week then!
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:22 AM
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Indeed the police no longer deal with strays. its the council...so probably only every other week then!
... and only if the collar's the right colour and the mouth firmly closed.
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Old 10-04-2008, 12:40 PM
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Therefore if it can be proved that someone has left a Cat outside while they are at work they can be seen to be abandoned in the context of the above...
If you use a cat being outside as proof that's it's been abandonned then presumably you're going to be on the phone to the NSPCC every time you see a child playing outside as by your argument, this must be a sign of bad parenting!!!!!
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:07 PM
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... or in the same context as what Alison's saying, when people go to Tescos and leave their dogs in the house alone does that mean the owner is abandoning their dog???

Going back to what Sue said about being advised to keep cats indoors - okay, agreed some cats really aren't 'built' for being outdoors - Siamese is one, they're just not outdoor-wise cats usually. But it goes to show how differing the advise can be as Battersea won't rehome a cat if you don't have a cat flap
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:16 PM
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I don't "leave my cat outside" at all, he takes himself out & gets himself back in! If he was outside all day, that would be his choice. Last year my neighbour was having trouble with cat mess in his garden (although he said he didn't think it was my cat), so I bought him a 'Super Soaker' water pistol and told him to fill it with cold water & a splash of vinegar & he should squirt my cat with it whenever he saw him. It only took a couple of squirts, and my cat skirts his garden completely (on his way to the field) now - they don't like being wet & the smell of vinegar makes the cat think he's being sprayed by a tom so they steer clear. Alternatively, you could use your own urine...
Simple solution, doesn't hurt the cat, deters them from your garden and you get the satisfaction of 'shooting' (squirting) them.
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:56 PM
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Sarzwiz - lovely, rational advice. My neighbour has two cats and has trained them not to jump on worksurfaces by hiding behind a door and having a squirt, it works a treat and they never jump up. When my cat went missing a couple of years ago, one man up the road was very defensive and admitted to have turned the hose on the cat, then also admitted he hadn't seen him since! I said I had no problem with that - and I don't, it worked for him and the cat knows to avoid that garden.

(Stupid moggie had got caught in the garage of someone who used her car once a week! Came home safe and sound and a little slimmer, but no more sensible)
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It only took a couple of squirts, and my cat skirts his garden completely Alternatively, you could use your own urine...
you get the satisfaction of squirting them.
I'm afraid I'm Gettting Older now...I'm not sure I have the range to p*ss on a cat.
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I'm afraid I'm Gettting Older now...I'm not sure I have the range to p*ss on a cat.
I think you have to let them get really close, and hope it's not one of those cats that swipes at things
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:36 PM
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I'm afraid I'm Gettting Older now...I'm not sure I have the range to p*ss on a cat.
Hahahahahahahahahaha, that made me laugh so hysterically that my kids now think I've lost my marbles
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If you use a cat being outside as proof that's it's been abandonned then presumably you're going to be on the phone to the NSPCC every time you see a child playing outside as by your argument, this must be a sign of bad parenting!!!!!
Only if they are causing damage to my Garden or pooing all over my Veg Beds. Also it is against the law to leave children alone under 13, so not a valid point, as I at least have some protection in a legal sense, I have none against bad Cat owners...

As a animal lover, I feel if you have to leave an animal unattended all day, you should not have one. The again I am against trophy kids as well!!!

We have a dog nearby that howls all day and cry's every now and again, it really is sad to hear!

I will try the soaker and Urine, sorry vinegar, as Urine goes on the compost heap!
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Cats own humans and let them roam unattended all day.
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Is it OK to leave my rabbit alone all day or should I bring it to work with me?
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Is it OK to leave my rabbit alone all day or should I bring it to work with me?
No- take it to work- it'll love running round the room chewing pieces of paper and ripping off wallpaper and peeing on chairs...until it's house-trained!!
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:52 PM
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Only if they are causing damage to my Garden or pooing all over my Veg Beds. Also it is against the law to leave children alone under 13, so not a valid point, as I at least have some protection in a legal sense, I have none against bad Cat owners...

As a animal lover, I feel if you have to leave an animal unattended all day, you should not have one. The again I am against trophy kids as well!!!

We have a dog nearby that howls all day and cry's every now and again, it really is sad to hear!

I will try the soaker and Urine, sorry vinegar, as Urine goes on the compost heap!
Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!
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After seeking guidance from legal experts, I soon discover why. There are no fixed legal ages governing many major parental decisions. There are, however, laws defining certain parental duties and responsibilities that provide pointers on these matters.
While the law relating to children varies slightly in England and Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, it is a common tenet that parents have a responsibility to protect children under 16 from harm. Parents can be prosecuted for neglect for leaving their children unattended, should they come to harm or be injured, or if the child is deemed to have been left in danger.

But when it comes to the crunch, it is down to a parent's judgment to decide when it is safe to leave a child under 16 without adult supervision. The NSPCC offers the following advice: "Parents need to make decisions based on considerations such as the age, maturity and wishes of the child or young person, the duration of absence, and the ease with which they can respond in an emergency."
Hope the squirter works for your cat problems though
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[quote=SarzWix;208174]Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!


Quite right SarzWix, take 2 children at 13 years of age, both very different. You could have a 13 year old who is more mature than an 18 year old! Sorry, Dale but what you quoted is wrong.

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Sorry, I'm going to be pedantic here Dale, but it's not actually illegal to leave kids alone at any age!


Quite right SarzWix, take 2 children at 13 years of age, both very different. You could have a 13 year old who is more mature than an 18 year old! Sorry, Dale but what you quoted is wrong.
I might be wrong about the age part but tnot the law. This is the official line.

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

And talking to my Social Services they would see a 13 year old as being at risk!

So part right, part wrong. The 13 came into it as I remember not being allowed to babysit when I was younger because of it. Uncle was a Bobby...
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Do the owners know it howls all day? My dog used to and I had no idea til someone told me. he was much happier in the school holidays and of course when we were home - no noise.

Maybe you could tell them?Maybe it needs therapy?

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and they love telephone wires too!

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