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It's called a rounding error!

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It takes more oil than vinegar to make a good salad dressing.

vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated Sept 2nd 2008

There could be, if we eat less but better meat. You could, for instance, eat vegetarian food half the week, meat the rest. It takes far fewer resources to produce food for people to eat, than to give that food to animals for the people to eat.
Some people could even rear their own meat ... a chicken in the back yard (just don't call it Chuffy )

I am afraid of a supermarket backlash - ie, importing cheap chicken, or creating food scares to shut down free range farms (bird flu, foot and mouth, bluetongue)

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~ What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea ~ Gandhi

Why would you want to eat this processed stuff anyway?
have you not seen Jamie's assault on chicken nuggets? Mechanically reclaimed meat? Gross.

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~ What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea ~ Gandhi

Re, the poll.
You need a box for "vegetarian, but bought free range to make a point". That would be the self-righteous cyclist right here

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~ What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea ~ Gandhi

I seem to recall being brought up on doorstep slices of bread and jam! At that time cut bread was starting to take over but my dad insisted it was pap and would only eat uncut fresh bread. I used to think it must have bean because we were poor that we didn't have the new fangled cut bread!
I can also remember eating a lot of greens and swede.

Funnily enough tho, I can't remember eating meat, apart from Sundays!

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My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
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I remember a lot of sugar sandwiches. Fried crinkly chips, mince padded out with baked beans. Corned beef hash. ~Cheese and potato pie, mmm.

OH is trying to lose weight, well I'm trying to lose it off him so I am stuffing all his meals with loads of lentils, beans and veg. It ekes out the meat no end.

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~ What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea ~ Gandhi

It's all to do with inflation!

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My Majesty made for him a garden anew in order
to present to him vegetables and all beautiful flowers.- Offerings of Thutmose III to Amon-Ra (1500 BCE)

We are not vegetarian, but always buy our meat from the farmer who produced it, and try to make it organic whenever possible. It's expensive, which means we eat less of it, but with lovely home grown veg as an accompaniment, a little less meat on the plate is no hardship.

I don't really think we can blame the supermarkets for bird flu, foot and mouth (though we can blame the Government for that one ) or bluetongue.

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Rat

British by birth
Scottish by the Grace of God

[size="1"]Journal updated Tuesday 5th August

[quote=Two_Sheds;162463]I remember a lot of sugar sandwiches. Fried crinkly chips, mince padded out with baked beans. Corned beef hash. ~Cheese and potato pie, mmm. [quote]

Just got Granny to buy Corned beef to make hash tomorrow havent had it for ages lovely with hot beetroot, drool, drool

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It's not the growing old I mind but the growing stupid with it!

Yep - better produced meat is more expensive so you have to make it go further. Fair enough - I bought a lb of venison at the farmers market on Friday (£4.50) - by the time I'd chopped in:

• a couple of home grown onions
• a punnet of mushrooms (all right, they were from Tesco)
• a handful each of my blue lake french beans, barlotti beans and black turtle beans (all duly soaked and boiled)
• a couple of rashers of ridiculously expensive Gloucester black spot bacon rashers
• third bottle of homemade red wine
• a couple of tablespoons of homemade runny seville orange marmalade

the resulting casserole has split into 7 dishes.

And it tastes bloody good too.

I have no problem buying a £8-£10 freerange chicken when I know that without trying too hard I'll get a couple of roast dinners, about 4 pies and a couple of portions of soup out of it - about a pound a portion, which is not exactly breaking the bank, is it?

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Hazel
www.hazelandjanesallotment.blogspot.com
update Tues 02/09/2008......beans and beans and beans......

We would have bread and jam for tea too Snadger. But my mum had made the bread and the jam. I wonder how much nourishment (and flavourings and preservatives and anti-oxidants etc) would be in shop bought bread and jam today?

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It takes more oil than vinegar to make a good salad dressing.

vegheaven.blogspot.com Updated Sept 2nd 2008

Not to mention salt which seems to be bunged into virtually everything these days.

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Hazel
www.hazelandjanesallotment.blogspot.com
update Tues 02/09/2008......beans and beans and beans......

Grandpadragon,

Eeeeugh. I can't stand corned beef, it's even worse than spam. I'm not a lover of anything salty (I don't eat crisps), and I'm violently allergic to beetroot .

So Hazel,

They had massive amounts of salt in previous eras (as a preservative).

My favourite meal when I was growing up was beef stew and dumplings. A real treat on a Friday when we got back from school. We were weekly boarders and not fed particularly well at school.

My Dad was a great believer in offal being good for you. As a doctor he was always bringing back "stuff". He also went shooting for hares, rabbits, pheasants etc for the pot. The only things I wouldn't eat (and still wouldn't) were chitterlings, brains, pig's head brawn, pig's ears.

My MIL, a farmer's daughter, wife and mother, wouldn't touch offal. She said it was only for the really poor - like gypsies etc.

My Dad had a really good veggie garden. He did most of the gardening himself until I was about 12 when he took on more work so employed a gardener. And when I married, I rarely bought fruit and veg as it was provided by myself growing it and from the farm garden. And the hedgerows.

It's only in the last 10 or so years I've had to buy and now I intend to go back to growing it again. I don't eat much meat anyway but what I do eat is bought from our local butcher and as I used to do his bookkeeping I know where it comes from .

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"I prefer rogues to imbeciles as they sometimes take a rest" (Alexander Dumas)

What was he bringing back from his surgery?????

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Some of us live in the past, always talking about back then. Some of us live in the future, always planning what we are going to do. And, then there are those, who neither look behind or ahead, but just enjoy the moment of right now.

Which one are you and is it how you want to be?

Alison, you really, really don't want the answer to that .

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"I prefer rogues to imbeciles as they sometimes take a rest" (Alexander Dumas)

We hardly ever buy a whole chicken....

We get all our meat from the local butchers, and the meat is reared locally. It's mostly free range, but not "certified" organic. The Hindquarter Website

They make their own mince, sausages, black pudding, cure their own bacon etc.

It's not cheap. Well, not compared to supermarket meat and special offers etc. But I know where it has come from and I trust the people that own/run it.

If we were to buy chicken, we'd either buy chicken breasts or diced chicken (which is the chicken from everywhere else), depending on what we wanted to do with it.

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"Its not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you" - Bruce Wayne

a big thank you to everyone who voted and the lively chat that followed and the future for chickens looks bright according to the results.
just in case you where not the next to post after me then i voted 2 for £5 but changing and will be staying that way as the chicken we had last sunday was lovely ( free range from tesco £4.90 ) so we buy one chicken rather than two and eat more veg instead.

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NORTH DEVON

a seed planted today makes a meal tomorrow!

www.freewebs.com/carlseawolf

now in blog form ! UPDATED 01 / 04 / 08

Agree there Carl... Bought my first ever Free Range chicken breasts yesterday and had them as HM kebabs. I'm a convert.

They didn't shrink (no water pumped in I guess), the meat was thicker and tastier, and I filled up much, much quicker so will need less going forward

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Shortie

"There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our children; one of these is roots, the other wings" - Hodding Carter

Oh Dear I quite like spam to I make the corned beef hash, deliberately too much and then the next day I have to eat it up and so make it like potato cakes and fry it very fattening, but for me one of the lost tastes of childhood.

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It's not the growing old I mind but the growing stupid with it!