Which berry?

**swaine** · 20-09-2016, 05:47 PM

Boysenberry ,

youngberry,

Dewberry ( grey hue on blue/purple berry)

Veitchberry

The druplets on the berries of these aren't as as organised as say the tayberry/loganberry ,

Sometimes Google search I shows incorrect berries per identification even some books aswell

Stew

**Snadger** · 20-09-2016, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by swaine View Post

Boysenberry ,

youngberry,

Dewberry ( grey hue on blue/purple berry)

Veitchberry

The druplets on the berries of these aren't as as organised as say the tayberry/loganberry ,

Sometimes Google search I shows incorrect berries per identification even some books aswell

Stew

Thanks Stew. I've Google imaged all of the above. Looks most like either a youngberry or Veitchberry.

As i said, I'll try and get a piccie tomorrow and get it confirmed!

**Snadger** · 21-09-2016, 06:25 PM

Ok, I took a couple of piccies this evening! see what ya think it is?

Its deffo some sort of blackberry/raspberry hybrid and i was wondering about the best way to increase the stock of it?

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**roitelet** · 21-09-2016, 08:57 PM

If the 'blackberry' is dominant it should root from tips pegged down in soil. If it is the 'raspberry' then look out for suckers. BTW my Tayberry does both!

**veggiechicken** · 21-09-2016, 09:06 PM

Any thorns?
Could it be a purple raspberry?

**vixylix** · 22-09-2016, 12:59 PM

I'm with VC - is it one of those newfangled black razzers?

**Snadger** · 22-09-2016, 03:27 PM

I'll check whether it has thorns (think it has!

) and whether the core is left on the bush (don't think it will be!)

when picked, which would denote it was of the rasp persuation!

**veggiechicken** · 22-09-2016, 06:15 PM

You should propagate it, sell it at an inflated price and call it the Snadgeberry.

I'm a bit concerned about its "pretty nondescript" taste though, so the only interested suckers may be the ones growing from it.

**Snadger** · 22-09-2016, 06:31 PM

Well..................it has thorns and looks like a blackberry in growth. It is hard to pick as it has a core when very ripe but doesn't come away as a whole fruit rather in pieces, like the wild bramble.

! If you pick it unripe there is a small core in the middle.

I was wondering if these blackberry/raspberry hybrids could form by themselves because there were a lot of raspberries and a lot of blackberries on the plot originally?

The dilemma is whether to save or even propogate from something thats appears its only saving grace is its different, although it is quite prolific?

**swaine** · 23-09-2016, 11:55 AM

SAVE IT , PROPAGATE IT QUICKLY !!!

I've got over a hundred types of blackberry , raspberry and hybrid berry and this dosent match any of them ,

Apart from its looks which is different to anything I have it's cropping season Is much later than other hybrids, the only hybrid I have cropping at the minute is some very late berries on a thorny boysenberry ,

I've even looked in some of my very old fruit books at

Kings acre berry - ( ripens July)

Low berry (blackberry X dewberry) no cropping season mentioned

Malling hybrid 53-16 ( purple black fruit with blackberry like canes)

Nectar berry ( dark Crimson)

Phenomenal berry ( larger fruited loganberry )

I have some very good bird down seedlings they can happen which yours maybe ?

Stew

**swaine** · 23-09-2016, 12:02 PM

Laxtonberry ( red like a raspberry and plugs easily )

**swaine** · 23-09-2016, 12:10 PM

I have had another thought and info
True blackberries apart from being black coloured
Come in coloured white, cream, yellow , brown , red , claret, red, purple , pink

So maybe a coloured variant of blackberry

Claret blackberry ( fruit large , glossy and claret coloured)

And

Dr Warner blackberry ( colour dark rosy red)

Stew

**Snadger** · 23-09-2016, 06:51 PM

You are a mine of information on Rubus Swaine.

Where are you located?, how come you have so many blackberry hybrids, and where do you grow them?

**swaine** · 23-09-2016, 07:02 PM

I live in Crewe,

Soft fruit is my favourite , I love it

I have them growing over 3 allotments
My home and my mum and dads house

My little collection consists of the raspberries, blackberries and hybrid berries ,and Rubus species

130 + varieties of strawberry
60 varieties of gooseberry
70 varieties of currant
20 varieties of rhubarb
8 varieties of cherry
30 varieties of Apple
12 plums and hybrids ( aprium pluot)
4 apricot varieties
6 fig varieties
3 peach varieties

stew

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