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    Thanks BM that pici made me feel much better about my efforts, mine look very similar.
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    I have fruit cage envy BM lol. What type are they and how long have they been in?
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    They are JoanJ, an Autumn cropping variety. This is their 3rd year. All the books say to cut them down to almost ground level after cropping but I don't. What I do is cut them down to around 3ft, these are what you are seeing in the photo, they will crop in the Summer at the same time as throwing out this years canes so once the ones in the photo have fruited, they will then be cut down at ground level leaving the newly grown Autumn canes to give a second crop around Sept/Nov. Hope that makes sense.
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    Let me try again...............the canes in the photo are last years canes & will give me "their" 2nd crop as they fruited last Autumn & were 8ft tall, they will then be removed after cropping..............New canes will come through soon to give me their 1st crop around Sept time......these will then be cut down to 3ft and allowed to grow for a 2nd crop next Summer.
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    Basically BM, your tewo timing.

    So, I planted out some cell grown Joan J plants last year. The canes didn't grow large as they were late in so I pruned them back last month. Coming through the soil now are all the replacement canes which will grow through spring and flower in summer to give me an autumn harvest.

    These are 1st year canes (and the only ones on the plants) and that will be their first harvest. So, once the raspberries have been harvested, instead of cutting them right back to the soil as you are supposed to do with autumn raspberries I cut them to three feet.

    Next year they will be mature 2 yo canes that will flower earlier and fruit in summer, whilst the 1yo canes are growing. After harvest I then cut the 2yo canes back to the ground. The 1yo canes will flower and fruit later and I repeat the prune back to 3 ft at the end of the season.

    Good. That's why I bought Joan Js. That and the fact that every time I say their name I hear "I Love Rock and Roll" playing in my head.

    I'd assume that because the 2yo canes have been reduced a lot and that energy is also going to the 1yo canes they produce a smaller harvest that a dedicated summer cropper. I'd also assume that because energy is being diverted to the 2nd yo canes the autumn crop isn't as large as if you had pruned them back and grown them purely as an autumn crop.

    Are my assumptions right? Does the total crop from both harvests match the harvest from a comparable summer only/autumn only plot? Does the summer harvest happen early, mid or late season?

    I also have Tulameen which is a late season summer raspberry that seems to be able to grow as a two timer as well. I planted 2 plants last year and got a small summer crop of the existing 2yo canes and at the same time they pushed up a total of 5 new canes between them. I expected that these new canes you be the ones to produce fruit the following year (this year).

    I decided that if they were barely replacing their canes it would take ages to fill the bed so added 2 more tulameen plants. These 5 new canes then decided to flower and provide a second crop of raspberries.

    As these were ripening the plants also started to push up more canes, 20 or so, which will overwinter and give me the summer crop this year. These are budding up now and beneath them their younger siblings are poking out and raising their heads skywards so it looks as if they're going to do a repeat performance of last years double/extended harvest.

    So it looks as I now have two 8' by 4' beds of two timing raspberries.

    I'm the only one in the family who admits to liking raspberries.

    This doesn't stop the raspberries "evaporating" as soon as they're picked.

    Or stop my mother going to the plot during the harvest period carrying a pot of double cream. She also "doesn't like" strawberries as much.
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    I have random raspberries - they're a mix of summer and autumn. Since they're muddled together I prune them all the same way - by cutting out the dead canes and by cutting the fruited tops off live canes. It works for me and its simple............yes, I know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-ell View Post
    I'm the only one in the family who admits to liking raspberries.
    You won't be once they taste JoanJ's.............anyways I digress. If I remember rightly, there was no reduction in crop or the fruit size. Doing it this way gives you pickings from around June/July through to December.
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