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    Great posts everyone .

    we bought a mulberry on a grafted rootstock last year from a well known nursery near the north yorks moors raliway
    its in the ground doing ok thus far.

    we are tempted with the mini mulberry one been advertised. so be interesting to see how people get on with it
    what other plants / species do you need nearby to help pollinate it

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    Another update.

    Charlotte needed a new home - the roots have reached the outside of the compost and I don't want it to get pot-bound. The next one up from the (5-6L?) green pot will be her final home, she's staying potted so she's portable...

    The light peat-free mix certainly seems to keep this plant happy. It was in a 3rd each mix of compost, leafmould and manure. Now in a slightly heavier mix with soil added.

    Berries are starting to take colour, but there are currently none on the latest new growth, maybe later in the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compo72 View Post
    we are tempted with the mini mulberry one been advertised. so be interesting to see how people get on with it
    what other plants / species do you need nearby to help pollinate it
    It's self-pollinating Compo.
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    I ordered my Charlotte Russe Mulberry as soon as they announced it, it came a while ago and it's been living on my windowsill (East facing bay window) since then. It will eventually go outside this summer, but I couldn't resist the temptation to have a crop of berries before then. I've had about 10 fruit off it in the past week, they ripen from red to black overnight!
    The little thing wants to make hundreds of berries, I removed about 30 or 40 in order to allow it to have some energy to grow (and it produces impressive amount of sap from the little tiny flower stalks, no wonder you shouldn't prune mulberries when in leaf - dread to think what chopping a branch would do), but it seems like every day there are another half dozen flowers appearing.
    Taste of the berries: well, they're certainly very nice, but not ground breakingly amazing. I've never actually had a fresh mulberry from another source, but I've had some fantastic mulberry jam I bought online. I wonder if I should plant a King James Mulberry so in 2025 I'll be able to compare the taste (actually I've been wondering about root restricting or espalier to make a morus nigra stay under 10 foot or so).

    I assume if mine is fruiting now that anyone else who couldn't resist the temptation to keep theirs indoors til they'd harvested a crop must also be eating them - how do others think they compare on taste?

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    Mine doesn't have any new flowers appearing yet, but some of the berries are going a decent red colour so it shouldn't be too far off. I got mine a little later than you probably - but before Suttons hiked up the price.

    I'm very lucky to have a fruiting mulberry tree in a family member's garden, so I do have something to compare it to.
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    What are those white wormy looking things coming out of the berries on yours sparrow?
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    Akion- they're the styles of the flowers (female bits). Mulberries are wind pollinated. They shrivel and shrink as the fruit develops.

    Sparrow - look forward to your thoughts. Unfortunately I'll not be getting enough berries at once to make jam until this little bush is a lot bigger. I'd be interested to hear a taste comparison as its well known that m. nigra tastes better than m. rubra or m. alba but the exact parentage of Charlotte Russe is a bit of a mystery. m. rotundila seems to be found in Thailand so far as I can tell and the genetic studies I found show it to be more closely related to alba/rubra than nigra.

    Having said that, I like them and I'm half tempted to get a second Charlotte Russe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brack View Post
    I ordered my Charlotte Russe Mulberry as soon as they announced it, it came a while ago and it's been living on my windowsill (East facing bay window) since then. It will eventually go outside this summer, but I couldn't resist the temptation to have a crop of berries before then. I've had about 10 fruit off it in the past week, they ripen from red to black overnight!
    The little thing wants to make hundreds of berries, I removed about 30 or 40 in order to allow it to have some energy to grow (and it produces impressive amount of sap from the little tiny flower stalks, no wonder you shouldn't prune mulberries when in leaf - dread to think what chopping a branch would do), but it seems like every day there are another half dozen flowers appearing.
    Taste of the berries: well, they're certainly very nice, but not ground breakingly amazing. I've never actually had a fresh mulberry from another source, but I've had some fantastic mulberry jam I bought online. I wonder if I should plant a King James Mulberry so in 2025 I'll be able to compare the taste (actually I've been wondering about root restricting or espalier to make a morus nigra stay under 10 foot or so).

    I assume if mine is fruiting now that anyone else who couldn't resist the temptation to keep theirs indoors til they'd harvested a crop must also be eating them - how do others think they compare on taste?
    m nigra espaliers well, I did it following instructions in RHS "Growing Fruit" - no different from an apple espalier. Sadly moved house after the first 2 sets arms were there so can't tell you about long-term prospects.

    And I've had one in a large pot for 10 years, now a bit under 5 ft tall. Seems very happy. No fruit yet.

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