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    Quote Originally Posted by devonuk View Post
    if Sparrow's is leafing out in mid-march that is very atypical for morus nigra which usually plays it safe until May before coming into leaf. Fruit may therefore not be of m nigra quality.
    Suttons have never labelled it morus nigra - it's only ever been there with a 'morus' under the name and is definitely a hybrid. For clarity the plant I was sent is in a greenhouse at the moment, not outdoors, and was told the first year potted plants had been raised under cover. (Spent a long time talking to Suttons)

    We'll just have to see what the berries are like. I'm still excited by it.
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    Thanks everyone for replies. I found a telephone number and phoned them. As mentioned above they have 'sold out' and next lot will be September. I think I've lost interest now : 'tho it maybe worth bumping this thread up in the summer to see if Sparrow has at least a few berries on his plant.

    Like many of you I have also tried some of these 'new' varieties but have to say that I've not been very happy with the results.

    Like my old dad used to say "The old faithfuls are the best" and at my age I prefer not to waste valuable energy on things which will not give me a good crop. Some might find this odd but I actually like to eat my fruit, preferably straight of the bush, and mixed with my morning porridge :

    So once again thanks, some diversion from original topic but I don't mind that at all. Why do some people go berserk if a thread runs 'off topic' ? it's what would happen if we were gathered together in the pub or at an exhibition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparrow100 View Post
    Suttons have never labelled it morus nigra - it's only ever been there with a 'morus' under the name and is definitely a hybrid. For clarity the plant I was sent is in a greenhouse at the moment, not outdoors, and was told the first year potted plants had been raised under cover. (Spent a long time talking to Suttons)

    We'll just have to see what the berries are like. I'm still excited by it.
    Sorry, my mistake. The Guardian article says it is described as a variety of m. nigra, but doesn't say who gave it that description.

    The plot thickens with a bit of googling; someone put out a press release in February (about the time of the Guardian piece) suggesting it is a (selection or hybrid of) a species, m. rotundiloba (misspelt rotunbiloba) and that Plant Breeder's Rights belong to a Mr Matsunaga of Japan : https://www.plantipp.eu/en/morus-cha...se-goes-royal/

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    That's really interesting devonuk - thanks for posting.
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    I've always wanted a mulberry but put off by size and slowness to bear. Although I've read that grafted mulberries fruit earlier. As an aside, I have a fourberry, although not the orange variety, mine is Black Pearl, and it fruits quite happily on its own. Although the fruit is not much to write home about, fairly ordinary flavour and large pips.

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    As an interim update, my Charlotte Russe has put on about 3cm in growth since I repotted it into luxurious new quarters (a 3L pot) and has the tiniest of berries appearing. It is apparently self-pollinating, and I've added a pic below so you can see them close up. In terms of actual size, well let's just say they have a looooooong way to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparrow100 View Post
    As an interim update, my Charlotte Russe has put on about 3cm in growth
    Thanks for that & the photo, and I'm pleased to see it's thriving, very much looking forward to another pic in June or July to see what those berries develop into.

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    Growth is really kicking in now. It's put on about 20cm vertically - the horizontal branches less than that. And the flowers are all hairy now. No sign of many flowers further up the new growth, but it's only just appeared...

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    And just to back up devonuk's comments, the very sheltered mulberry tree (nigra) at Garden Organic is only just coming into leaf. My sister-in-law's is still developing buds.
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