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- 11-06-2012, 09:05 AM #25
i have a jenny (from wilkos this year) - it's growing, slowly ....
i'm going to put up some trellis fence for it to grow up .... 3 panels (18ft) wide .... there will be a couple of grape vines on the trellis too ....
any tips on controlling the growth? better in a pot or the ground? i live on a chalk hill with a few inches of soil above the chalk ....
- 11-06-2012, 09:14 AM #26
Chalk will severely stunt most plants; reducing their growth by half or more. Too much vigour is rarely a problem on chalk. The most likely problem is managing to keep non-indigenous plants alive. Nutrients become unavailable due to calcium overload in the soil, therefore plants easily suffer from malnutrition.
Such soils - being shallow - tend not to hold moisture.
With "locked-up" nutrients and dry soil, most plants will not be growing anywhere fast.
So I would say that I really doubt that too much vigour will be a problem in such punishing conditions. More than likely you'll need to boost vigour rather than reduce it, otherwise I cn imagine it taking a lifetime to get up to the size you want.
So I would let it do its thing. If it grows too slowly, add more nutrients (a manure mulch). If it grows too fast, stop feeding/watering and keep on top of the pruning (July-August pruning is best for over-vigorous plants).
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- 11-06-2012, 09:30 AM #27
most fruit and veg plants seem to grow well here, as do the weeds. I haven't found anything that doesn't grow well here. I expect the kiwi and grape will grow just fine but hoping they don't go toooooooooo mad!
- 11-06-2012, 09:37 AM #28
Root restriction (pots, infertile soil, brick rubble, slab-lined fig pits) would all be worth considering.
If you prevent the roots from spreading far and wide (or only allow them to spread into infertile soil), the plants will not be able to grow out of control.
But I'm surprised that things grow well if the soil is shallow and chalky..
- 11-06-2012, 09:48 AM #29
the veggie patch has been worked well for many years so has 10-12 inches of good (but chalky) soil .... the lawn is only 2-4" above the chalk .... we have apple, pear, plum, cherry and peach trees here, and a massive elderberry tree growing over the back .... used to have cooking apple, damson and apricot but a "tree surgeon" managed to kill them off ....
- 11-06-2012, 10:09 AM #30
... and on the subject of size, this was mine in August 2009. The barn door is no longer there but I reckon it was about 12 feet high and the Kiwi is way taller than that .
It was reduced to a brown shrivelling wreck that winter but I cut it down and it has given me loads of small but perfectly formed kiwi fruit every year since.A garden is a lovesome thing, God wot! (Thomas Edward Brown)
- 11-06-2012, 10:21 AM #31
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